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Tight space water shut off valve replacement

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Tight space water shut off valve replacement

So with this new found time at home I went looking for interior projects around the house that I have been putting off.


I have a water shut off valve and it’s crazy tight and annoying for the two times a year that I operate it.


I was hoping to put a 1/4 handle valve in but as you can see, the space is super tight.

At the bottom is a steel stud and to the left is a wood stud and behind it is the pink styrofoam board insulation and above it is the T which feeds up to my kitchen sink.


What are my options?

1-leave it, deal with it and make the drywall hole bigger
2- shark bite a new valve in
3- trim the foam board and try to solder in a new valve
4- can I buy the inner parts to covert it to a 1/4 handle valve so I don’t need to solder???

I am hoping for option 4 but figured I would ask here first
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I'd go option 1. But, in any event, you're going to have to make a bigger hole if you want to work on replacing that gated valve. AFAIK option 4 is impossible as the existing stem and gate will not work with a handle, it will need to be completely removed. I'm not a plumber so I could be completely wrong.
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I have the same issue and decided to leave as is
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option 1

option 4 seems impossible as mentioned above
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I would just cut out more of the drywall and foam insulation to make it easier to fit my hand and turn it. Still won't be easy as a 1/4 turn ball valve, but it will be slightly less annoying and it's only twice a year. Or instead of using your hand, use vise grips. Keep the foam insulation and put it back when done turning the valve.

For options #2 and #3, you'll need to desolder the old valve to remove it. For me, if I've already got my soldering equipment out and protected the stud and insulation from the flames to remove the old valve, then I might as well solder in a new one instead of using a SharkBite. Still, IMHO, not worth the effort to replace if it's otherwise working fine.
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Consider option 5 - see if you can follow the pipe in both directions to see if you can find a better location to access it. If you can, open a new opening there, install a new ball valve, and leave the existing one where it is.
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put a proper access panel over that opening instead of a air return vent. they even make ones that you can paint to match the wall
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Option 1
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Looks like option one, I’ll just make the hole bigger or see if my wife wants a little extra responsibility around the house.
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Sounds like the valve is for outside outlet since its only used twice a year?....if so you could get a frost free outdoor faucet, Lowes carries one that's got a push connect so pretty easy install:
https://www.lowes.ca/product/water-shut ... lsrc=aw.ds

That's if you can get at the valve where it exits the house; if you can install one of those you can leave the original valve open and finish the wall. Do make sure the valve stem is angled down/out and so water isn't sitting in it after closed.
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Zamboni wrote: [snip] ...if so you could get a frost free outdoor faucet, [snip]
[snip] if you can install one of those you can leave the original valve open and finish the wall. [snip]
A separate shutoff as exists is still required according to the OBC.
see this thread post for details
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Option 6 - move to a new place where there is a proper ball valve shut-off with good access or in an unfinished area where this problem doesn't exist Face With Tears Of Joy
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tooluser wrote: A separate shutoff as exists is still required according to the OBC.
see this thread post for details
[snip] if you can install one of those you can leave the original valve open and finish the wall. [snip]

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