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TIPS for improving grades - preparation for grade 12

What tips do you have? We are targeting Science major. Next year is Grade 12 and we want to improve as much as possible.
The student in question has ADHD that they are managing reasonably good, without pills.
Using Pomodoro technique also relatively helpful. Grades are in high 70s to low 80s, we want to be 80-90 at least.
Will be happy to hear how and what had helped your kids to raise their average and overall improved study ethics and habits. Thanks.
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With ADHD, have a schedule, use Google Calendar or a planner. Online blockades like Cold Turkey software or Forest app/chrome extension can be used. Nothing wrong with using pills, hell, I knew people without ADHD using it lol. Obviously it's a personal/family choice.

You want to stay ahead of your lecture, so do the readings or whatever is covered tomorrow before setting foot in that class, that way the teacher can fill in the gaps.
Look up the forgetting curve, it should guide you on spaced repetition.

Biology - you can use software like Anki to form flash cards which will automatically enforce that spaced repetition above
Physics - do ALL the homework, learn to derive AND memorize the formulas (especially the 5 kinematic formulas - those keep coming back)
With chemistry - do ALL the homework assigned and the problem sets

When you get a test/quiz/homework back, figure out exactly what you got wrong.

Also, ChatGPT is huge to fill in gaps, and if the teacher sucks, there's always Khan Academy.

Not a parent but my university (UW) science marks averaged mid 90s for inorganic chemistry, high 80s for bio, and literally 80 for physics. Long ago lol...

Also grade 12 will form the foundation of the sciences you learn, if he's writing the DAT or MCAT afterwards, he'll be like 80% there. And first year university is mostly a repeat of grade 12. I did better in university than in high school. Grades can also open the door to money through scholarships as well (and references).
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It is harder than it sounds...I never managed to 'stay ahead' that often, unless I really loved the topic like economics. Which had similar marks to my chemistry.

Sometimes it's true what they say, do what you love, but hope that there's a market for it...

What helped me with bio was that my G12 teacher made a list of questions that we had to answer in exploring the textbook chapter. It was a good habit. You can design your own system of outlining and question generation. Or these days, you can just ask ChatGPT, I'm sure they've violated some textbook copyrights and are trained on those specific textbooks lol. "What are the key lessons/points in this chapter of x book, can you produce a list of questions for me to hunt?" Man, can't believe my teacher had to do that manually in the early 2000s.

ChatGPT is a huge game changer, but I would use it as a tool than an actual answerer. You can probably set in some commands to make it more academically honest and targeted towards training. I think Sal Khan of Khan Academy did that with his Khanmigo product - it'll never give you the answer, but guide you to it. There's a huge diff, once you search and find, you're more likely to retain it and not die during a test/exam. Once you just get the answer it's fleeting. Struggle reinforces retention.

There's a book called 'Make it Stick' by Peter C Brown, it covers the neurocognitive aspects of learning (with practical tips). And anything from Dr. Barbara Oakley (even her free coursera courses): https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn

If I had kids, I'd be on that stuff right away.

Grades won't matter later once people are out working, but it's a lot of scholarship money and access to the best professions. Only 1-5 years where you really have to grind hard in life to make the rest easier.
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Also, helps to have a direction/purpose/plan...With ADHD there's going

“He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how.” Friedrich Nietzsche

Might be too philosophical for a G12, or maybe it shouldn't be and we just didn't teach properly lol

I hate how we had to choose relatively irreversible paths way too early without any training/instruction of where the paths may lead

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Another thing, SMART goals - Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Relevant, and Time-Bound.
With ADHD, you'll want to set your own internal deadlines to make sure you stay on schedule. Otherwise you just wait until your anxiety/stress picks up before you even start and you deliver a crap last minute product...lol
I should be taking my own advice. Luckily math and science in my day weren't project based, it was just testing.
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"if you judge a fish by its ability climbing a tree, it will die stupid"
I am happy that in 21 century ADHD is diagnosed.
In 80s you would be told that you are an idiot.
I grew up like that.
Luckily I ended up somehow ok:)
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doctor80 wrote: "if you judge a fish by its ability climbing a tree, it will die stupid"
I am happy that in 21 century ADHD is diagnosed.
In 80s you would be told that you are an idiot.
I grew up like that.
Luckily I ended up somehow ok:)
Lots of things teachers did back then would get them fired today
I think everyone has ADHD-traits now because of how our tech wired us
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Have they decided what they want to take in post secondary? Sometimes that's a good motivator, knowing they need to hit a certain average in order to get into their desired program. My youngest was an average student for most of his schooling life...it wasn't until grade 11 that he decided to improve his grades enough to get into engineering. I don't think he liked grade school or high school too much but he thrived in university.
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Mars2012 wrote: Have they decided what they want to take in post secondary? Sometimes that's a good motivator, knowing they need to hit a certain average in order to get into their desired program. My youngest was an average student for most of his schooling life...it wasn't until grade 11 that he decided to improve his grades enough to get into engineering. I don't think he liked grade school or high school too much but he thrived in university.
Exact same happened to me, though I didn't take my engineering offers (regretfully). I think because G11/12 have more specialized science and math courses, whereas everything before was more generalized and subjectively marked. Math/Sci are the most fairly marked courses, it's not about how likeable you are/how well you fall in line, it's about getting the right answer. And those high marks are super encouraging so it snowballs. Same in university, super specialized and the professors don't know who you are unless you're gunning for references early on. Also, you're surrounded by much smarter/mature people in university as well. I hated high school.
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Mars2012 wrote: Have they decided what they want to take in post secondary? .....
Biophysics or Astrophysics/Astronomy
The kid does not believe in computer science.
Only science direction is relevant.
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doctor80 wrote: Biophysics or Astrophysics/Astronomy
The kid does not believe in computer science.
Only science direction is relevant.
That's fine as long as there is coop and code training. Physics does well, but I think it's a result of the IQ (avg for physics is 133) and problem solving than it is about the topic lol. A lot were employed in finance awhile back to program the high frequency trading algorithms using Brownian Motion principles.

Computer science got a bad wrap ever since the boom and bust in around 2022. Useful skills in there, but you don't need to take CS to learn them. Most devs are self taught, and what's taught in school is not really related to what's used at work, it's far behind. He can probably get away with some introductory coding classes and data structures and algorithms. Physics will already have the calculus/lin alg. He's likely going to have to code regardless because of simulations. A lot of the good coop jobs will use coding in some capacity. You'd think AI would eliminate the need to code, but you still need to know the fundamentals to know it's not feeding you BS or garbage code that compiles but doesn't do what you want it to.

Physics is a good pick, especially with ADHD, you'll want to do what you like because if you fall behind in the heavy math areas, it's not a fun time to get caught up...
Looks fun too: https://uwaterloo.ca/academic-calendar/ ... H1-0kyACi3
Quantum Physics is going to be huge
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doctor80 wrote: What tips do you have? We are targeting Science major. Next year is Grade 12 and we want to improve as much as possible.
The student in question has ADHD that they are managing reasonably good, without pills.
Using Pomodoro technique also relatively helpful. Grades are in high 70s to low 80s, we want to be 80-90 at least.
Will be happy to hear how and what had helped your kids to raise their average and overall improved study ethics and habits. Thanks.
Location: GTA

Honestly Grade inflation in ON is so whack that you should just BUY your way into a science major; everyone else is.

For STEM programs in 2025 even for average schools the cut offs are low to mid 90s. 80s are waitlisted until the 90s choose their school.

Your kid can be insanely smart, hard worth ethic, study all night and day... but could not get above a mid 80 or 90 for ANY reason (Teacher doesn't like you, teacher way too tough on the class, teacher sucks, teacher has favourites, etc) because the game is rigged and it's not a fair fight.

And English 12U is still a common complaint I find, teachers act like they're God and play favorites. A low 12U will hold back a STEM applicant, even if their English is fine, but the teacher is insecure because they didn't end up like Stephen King or something.

So people just go to private school, pay $600 a course, where they are basically guaranteed a 95+ as long as they show up and submit their assignments.

When I went to public school, I got an 82 in MHF4U and worked my ass off for it (Studied everyday after school for hours, doing HW, etc). Class average was 52 as well (After 1/4 of the class dropped out at the halfway point before the mark was on your transcript permanently). Meanwhile some other kid that dropped out because he was getting a low 60 went to private school in the evenings, got a 92, and got accepted to Schulich, Lol!

Massive downfall of Canadian education; lack of standardized testing. If Canada had a SAT, Gaokao, Suneung, there wouldn't be this problem.

If anything, this is a lesson for your teenager going into real life. Honesty is often a weakness and you get left behind... people with money and willing to cheat/abuse the system get ahead in life.

And I'm not talking out my ass.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news ... admissions
"If a 96 isn't good enough, what is?" said Hamilton in an interview. "Where does it stop? Is everyone going to be needing 100 averages to get into these programs?"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/students ... -1.6867102

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/07/29/ ... -for-cash/
“There’s a credit mill around here, you just walk over, plunk down your $600-$800 and sometimes, depending the school, they may ask you what mark you need for what course and you don’t have to go to a class.”
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CanadianConsumerYEG wrote: Location: GTA

Honestly Grade inflation in ON is so whack that you should just BUY your way into a science major; everyone else is.

For STEM programs in 2025 even for average schools the cut offs are low to mid 90s. 80s are waitlisted until the 90s choose their school.

Your kid can be insanely smart, hard worth ethic, study all night and day... but could not get above a mid 80 or 90 for ANY reason (Teacher doesn't like you, teacher way too tough on the class, teacher sucks, teacher has favourites, etc) because the game is rigged and it's not a fair fight.

And English 12U is still a common complaint I find, teachers act like they're God and play favorites. A low 12U will hold back a STEM applicant, even if their English is fine, but the teacher is insecure because they didn't end up like Stephen King or something.

So people just go to private school, pay $600 a course, where they are basically guaranteed a 95+ as long as they show up and submit their assignments.

When I went to public school, I got an 82 in MHF4U and worked my ass off for it (Studied everyday after school for hours, doing HW, etc). Class average was 52 as well (After 1/4 of the class dropped out at the halfway point before the mark was on your transcript permanently). Meanwhile some other kid that dropped out because he was getting a low 60 went to private school in the evenings, got a 92, and got accepted to Schulich, Lol!

Massive downfall of Canadian education; lack of standardized testing. If Canada had a SAT, Gaokao, Suneung, there wouldn't be this problem.

If anything, this is a lesson for your teenager going into real life. Honesty is often a weakness and you get left behind... people with money and willing to cheat/abuse the system get ahead in life.

And I'm not talking out my ass.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news ... admissions



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/students ... -1.6867102

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/07/29/ ... -for-cash/
Oh man, I remember someone getting 60s in STEM courses at my school, but went to some private outfit, dropped 2Gs and came out with a 90+. I enjoyed our course, got a 92 finally, but it was a super cute teacher. I tucked away my English into the summer, but apparently Waterloo doesn't like to see that now.

Yeah, some schools are easier than others, that's why Waterloo engineering has an adjustment scale:
https://github.com/jdabtieu/Waterloo-Ad ... rs2023.pdf

All other schools/programs most likely aren't using this.

We totally need standardized testing, this is a joke. Aristocrats win.

Damn you're younger than me, in my day, calculus was the mandatory math credit, then it devolved into Advanced Functions and Introductory Calculus (MCB4U1). Felt the system got dumbed down over time.
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"We are targeting Science major." If they don't want to be a science major and feel pressured to be a science major, you are wasting their time and yours. Grade 11 marks matter as much as grade 12. Consider retaking the required Grade 11 classes to get higher marks and then doing a 5th year to get the Grade 12 classes. The better schools/programs do early admissions in October (or as soon as applications open) so waiting for grade 12 marks is too late. My daughter is in Grade 12 and most of her classmates have already applied and accepted offers before Christmas. They are conditional on Grade 12 marks being similar to Grade 11 marks so they need to keep their marks up and get required courses, but admissions were based on Grade 11.

If their grade 11 marks aren't great - try different universities. They can still get a degree without the pressure of trying to get in and stay at a top school. York, Lakehead, Ontario Tech vs. U of T, Waterloo.
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I wanted computer science.
But the kid wants science, preferred astronomy physics.
So by saying "we" I imply to decision made by my daughter which I support as well:)
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zeddy wrote: "We are targeting Science major." If they don't want to be a science major and feel pressured to be a science major, you are wasting their time and yours. Grade 11 marks matter as much as grade 12. Consider retaking the required Grade 11 classes to get higher marks and then doing a 5th year to get the Grade 12 classes. The better schools/programs do early admissions in October (or as soon as applications open) so waiting for grade 12 marks is too late. My daughter is in Grade 12 and most of her classmates have already applied and accepted offers before Christmas. They are conditional on Grade 12 marks being similar to Grade 11 marks so they need to keep their marks up and get required courses, but admissions were based on Grade 11.

If their grade 11 marks aren't great - try different universities. They can still get a degree without the pressure of trying to get in and stay at a top school. York, Lakehead, Ontario Tech vs. U of T, Waterloo.
Is your school semester-ed? Mine wasn't, so they weighted G12 more at the time.
doctor80 wrote: I wanted computer science.
But the kid wants science, preferred astronomy physics.
So by saying "we" I imply to decision made by my daughter which I support as well:)
That's fine, they can just take some CS electives. They're going to learn to code anyway from simulations.

CS jobs will hire from math/physics depts as well typically. There's no CS professional license or anything, it's just whether you have the skills/experience or not.

Undergrad prestige doesn't matter much unless you want to go out to the workforce directly. But ultimately it's skillsets, and coop experience. Coop is everything for jobs...If I had kids, that'd probably be my first consideration, good major in a school with a good coop program.

Schools are way out of touch with the job market as well. And a CS program disappoints a lot of people because of the amount of focus on math vs. coding/programming aspects. The coding/programming is like a tool to solve math problems.

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