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Dec 15th, 2020 1:42 am
Kyle12345 [OP]
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Dec 15th, 2020 1:42 am

Traffic ticket

Hi.

My wife got a ticket for not stopping completely at a red light before turning right. She also got a ticket for having 2 valid driver’s licenses on her from an address change. The cop somehow noticed it when she pulled out her purse.

Which violation is worse in Ontario? Looking to fight the worse one and pay for the least worse.

Thanks.
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Dec 15th, 2020 1:56 am
Cheapo-Findo
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Dec 15th, 2020 1:56 am

red light
- 3 demerit points
- a three hundred and twenty five ($325.00) dollar fine
- a conviction registered on your driving record for three years

WOULD SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
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Dec 15th, 2020 10:27 am
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Dec 15th, 2020 10:27 am

Kyle12345 wrote: ↑ Which violation is worse?
Depends on which province or territory you are in. Which province gives you a second driver's licence when you move without having to surrender or report lost the original one? Here in BC if you move, they mail you a label with your new address that you stick on your DL over the old address.
Dec 15th, 2020 11:30 am
Kyle12345 [OP]
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Dec 15th, 2020 11:30 am

Cheapo-Findo wrote: ↑ red light
- 3 demerit points
- a three hundred and twenty five ($325.00) dollar fine
- a conviction registered on your driving record for three years
Thanks. What’s the penalty for having 2 drivers licenses?
Dec 15th, 2020 11:31 am
Kyle12345 [OP]
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Dec 15th, 2020 11:31 am

Kiraly wrote: ↑ Depends on which province or territory you are in. Which province gives you a second driver's licence when you move without having to surrender or report lost the original one? Here in BC if you move, they mail you a label with your new address that you stick on your DL over the old address.
I live in Ontario. I dunno lol they just mailed her a new one.
Dec 15th, 2020 11:54 am
George613
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Dec 15th, 2020 11:54 am

Pretty douche move by the cop to give her the 2nd ticket for 2 licences.
How about less of this easy pick fruit for meaningless infractions and some real enforcement of dangerous driving. All they have to do is cruise any major roadway and they could pick off dangerous idiotic drivers all they want. Instead they are wasting their time and OP's money with this crap.
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Dec 15th, 2020 12:20 pm
khotvikasp
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Dec 15th, 2020 12:20 pm

Her badluck that cop saw both licenses
Driver’s licence laws
It is illegal to:

Lend your licence
Let someone else use it
Use an altered licence
Use another licence as your own
Have more than one Ontario driver’s licence
Use a fictitious or imitation licence
Dec 15th, 2020 11:37 pm
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Dec 15th, 2020 11:37 pm

Dispute both charges and hope for the best.
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Dec 19th, 2020 11:52 am
Kyle12345 [OP]
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Dec 19th, 2020 11:52 am

Piklishi wrote: ↑ Dispute both charges and hope for the best.
It’ll be too expensive to go to trial with both with a lawyer so I was looking to go to trial with whichever was worse.

So I guess both are equally bad...?
Dec 19th, 2020 12:05 pm
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Dec 19th, 2020 12:05 pm

Kyle12345 wrote: ↑ It’ll be too expensive to go to trial with both with a lawyer so I was looking to go to trial with whichever was worse.

So I guess both are equally bad...?
No need to get a lawyer now, just go to the court office and set a trail date for now. There is a huge backlog right now in getting your trail date, most likely you won't be getting your trail date until after spring 2022, so this give you have tons of time to decide if you want to hire someone to fight your ticket. And who knows, since there is such a huge backlog at the traffic court, your ticket might get lost in the system if you are lucky.
Dec 19th, 2020 1:42 pm
Kyle12345 [OP]
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Dec 19th, 2020 1:42 pm

lechan wrote: ↑ No need to get a lawyer now, just go to the court office and set a trail date for now. There is a huge backlog right now in getting your trail date, most likely you won't be getting your trail date until after spring 2022, so this give you have tons of time to decide if you want to hire someone to fight your ticket. And who knows, since there is such a huge backlog at the traffic court, your ticket might get lost in the system if you are lucky.
I see, I wish haha.

But when the time comes to decide, which is worse? The right turn or the extra drivers license?
Dec 19th, 2020 9:01 pm
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Dec 19th, 2020 9:01 pm

The red light is much more serious and will impact insurance if convicted, having another license is a non-moving violation like a parking ticket.

Hard to win the red light ticket unless you have witnesses or a dashcam, even then it's a challenge. ALWAYS fight major tickets as there is a shot the cop may not show up, if anything to buy some time and clog up the courts.

The second license ticket is more likely to get thrown out or reduced, it's a tack on ticket that can be negotiated away.
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Dec 19th, 2020 9:51 pm
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Dec 19th, 2020 9:51 pm

M1K3Z0R wrote: ↑ The red light is much more serious and will impact insurance if convicted, having another license is a non-moving violation like a parking ticket.

Hard to win the red light ticket unless you have witnesses or a dashcam, even then it's a challenge. ALWAYS fight major tickets as there is a shot the cop may not show up, if anything to buy some time and clog up the courts.

The second license ticket is more likely to get thrown out or reduced, it's a tack on ticket that can be negotiated away.
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Dec 20th, 2020 9:52 am
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Dec 20th, 2020 9:52 am

Fight them both. The cop must have been in a bad mood to give a ticket instead of a warning of the license one.

I always keep my old license after an address change for a while, it comes in handy if I have to pick up a package or changing mailing addresses and they want proof of residence at the previous address. In Ontario they just mail you the new one and tell you to destroy the old one.
Dec 20th, 2020 11:53 am
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Dec 20th, 2020 11:53 am

She shouldn't have been carrying the old licence if she had already received the new one - the old one should have been destroyed. Regardless, douche move by the cop to give a ticket for that. Cop could have told her to destroy it immediately on the spot by folding it back and forth a few times to break the plastic.

As for the red light. If the cop saw her do it, she's pretty much toast. Only hope is that they don't show up if you choose to fight it.
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Dec 31st, 2020 4:50 pm
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Dec 31st, 2020 4:50 pm

Kyle12345 wrote: ↑ Hi.

My wife got a ticket for not stopping completely at a red light before turning right. She also got a ticket for having 2 valid driver’s licenses on her from an address change. The cop somehow noticed it when she pulled out her purse.

Which violation is worse in Ontario? Looking to fight the worse one and pay for the least worse.

Thanks.
Go to the online payment municipality website and check if the ticket(s) have even been filed with the court? Enter your ICON and Traffic Offence number on the search page. Of course, the decision to either pay or fight would have expired as we are beyond the 15 day period.

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