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Traveling in a post Covid 19 world

Are you all in the same boat? Lately, with this travel ban I have been thinking a lot about traveling.

It's not just the destinations that I want to get to, but also the planning and anticipation of a long trip that I miss. I found that it's the little things in travel that I miss the most... as silly as it sounds, its things like looking out at the airport tarmac in a foreign country, looking at ads on the street that you have never seen before and trying to order food with a waiter who can't speak a word of English.

As soon as it is safe to do so, I plan to travel ASAP. The only question is where...

I think as convenient as it is, the US and Europe will be off limits for a while. Many Asian countries are further down the curve and have already re-opened, but most are imposing 14 day mandatory quarantine rules that will make leisure travel impossible. I'm trying to come up with some travel ideas that I can plan on... places that are out of the woods and will welcome visitors... any suggestions?
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Statistics101 wrote: Are you all in the same boat? Lately, with this travel ban I have been thinking a lot about traveling.

It's not just the destinations that I want to get to, but also the planning and anticipation of a long trip that I miss. I found that it's the little things in travel that I miss the most... as silly as it sounds, its things like looking out at the airport tarmac in a foreign country, looking at ads on the street that you have never seen before and trying to order food with a waiter who can't speak a word of English.

As soon as it is safe to do so, I plan to travel ASAP. The only question is where...

I think as convenient as it is, the US and Europe will be off limits for a while. Many Asian countries are further down the curve and have already re-opened, but most are imposing 14 day mandatory quarantine rules that will make leisure travel impossible. I'm trying to come up with some travel ideas that I can plan on... places that are out of the woods and will welcome visitors... any suggestions?
Many European countries are opening to ALL tourists next month. You can travel to the US right now. Some destinations in the south will be re-opening to tourists right now. You just have to be OK with going on quarantine for 14 days when you get back home, unless the government lifts this restriction.
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mcbg1 wrote: Many European countries are opening to ALL tourists next month. You can travel to the US right now. Some destinations in the south will be re-opening to tourists right now. You just have to be OK with going on quarantine for 14 days when you get back home, unless the government lifts this restriction.
And OK with travelling WITHOUT Travel Insurance
That’s the kicker for many people

Not so much the 14 + 14 Days Quarantine ... if you have the time to spare

It’s the risk of travelling without Health Insurance
(Doesn’t matter what age you are )
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PointsHubby wrote: And OK with travelling WITHOUT Travel Insurance
That’s the kicker for many people

Not so much the 14 + 14 Days Quarantine ... if you have the time to spare

It’s the risk of travelling without Health Insurance
(Doesn’t matter what age you are )
Can you read? I just said a bunch of countries are removing their arrival quarantine requirements. Most people don't need insurance.
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mcbg1 wrote: Can you read? I just said a bunch of countries are removing their arrival quarantine requirements. Most people don't need insurance.
Lol, you’re hilarious.

Ok so the first 14 days don’t count ... for now

As for the rest
No one NEEDS insurance ... until they do
:rolleyes:
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PointsHubby wrote: Lol, you’re hilarious.

Ok so the first 14 days don’t count ... for now

As for the rest
No one NEEDS insurance ... until they do
:rolleyes:
He is correct about removing the quarantine requirement. Most European countries will be fully open July 1.

As for insurance, it may be on peoples minds more now than it was before but insurance was not a big seller before. It was always an issue with "senior" travelers or those with medical situations but not so much for young people or even people with families. I am not sure it will be the travel discriminator for those wanting to travel.
The Government cannot give to anybody anything that the Government does not first take from somebody else.
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That's all fine and good that Europe will open up next month. Anyone tried to find a flight that doesn't require a second mortgage to pay for it?

And yes, most people don't think about insurance until they need it.
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mrweather wrote: That's all fine and good that Europe will open up next month. Anyone tried to find a flight that doesn't require a second mortgage to pay for it?

And yes, most people don't think about insurance until they need it.
I've seen lots of reasonable flights. Booked 2 for the rest of the year :)
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mcbg1 wrote: I've seen lots of reasonable flights. Booked 2 for the rest of the year :)
This,

Luckily prices didn't increase. Europe is a great place to go. You are protected under Euro laws in case your flight goes sideways again.

Funny how us Canadians get protection from foreign government bodies, such as Euro and US
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Messerschmitt wrote: This,

Luckily prices didn't increase. Europe is a great place to go. You are protected under Euro laws in case your flight goes sideways again.

Funny how us Canadians get protection from foreign government bodies, such as Euro and US
I also booked a roundtrip fare to Bali in business class for 1400$ all in. Lots of great deals to be had.
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mcbg1 wrote: I also booked a roundtrip fare to Bali in business class for 1400$ all in. Lots of great deals to be had.
Nice! I always wanted to try business class. Directly with airline? Which one?
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Messerschmitt wrote: Nice! I always wanted to try business class. Directly with airline? Which one?
It was a mistake fare from YUL-YYZ-YOW. It's a mix of flights on American Airlines and Cathay Pacific (YOW-PHL-LAX-HKG (24 hour layover)-DPS). You could also route through YVR with Japan Airlines. It only lasted a couple hours so I jumped on it. My flight is in March 2021 so hopefully Indonesia is open to tourists by then. Worst case I'll get my money refunded.
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mcbg1 wrote: It was a mistake fare from YUL-YYZ-YOW. It's a mix of flights on American Airlines and Cathay Pacific (YOW-PHL-LAX-HKG (24 hour layover)-DPS). You could also route through YVR with Japan Airlines. It only lasted a couple hours so I jumped on it. My flight is in March 2021 so hopefully Indonesia is open to tourists by then. Worst case I'll get my money refunded.
Nice. So where did you find it? Was it through google flights like other price mistakes? Or directly with American/Cathay?
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Messerschmitt wrote: Nice. So where did you find it? Was it through google flights like other price mistakes? Or directly with American/Cathay?
I heard about it on the Flyertalk forum. I was then able to book it directly on the American Airlines website. Can't wait to try the Cathay lounges at HKG!
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mcbg1 wrote: I heard about it on the Flyertalk forum. I was then able to book it directly on the American Airlines website. Can't wait to try the Cathay lounges at HKG!
Jealous...
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Messerschmitt wrote: Jealous...
You can get notifications when new deals get posted there. You can also follow secret flying. Mistake fares always last just a few hours so you have to book now, think later.
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Pete_Coach wrote: He is correct about removing the quarantine requirement. Most European countries will be fully open July 1.

As for insurance, it may be on peoples minds more now than it was before but insurance was not a big seller before. It was always an issue with "senior" travelers or those with medical situations but not so much for young people or even people with families. I am not sure it will be the travel discriminator for those wanting to travel.
PointsHubby wrote: Lol, you’re hilarious.

Ok so the first 14 days don’t count ... for now

As for the rest
No one NEEDS insurance ... until they do
:rolleyes:
I think given the current situation is very fluid, having insurance is very important. You don't know you'll need it until you need it. Then what? You want to come back to Canada with a six figure bill? I get most people don't buy it. It is what it is. Not my problem if they face financial ruin. Is it even possible in some countries that hospitals may not treat someone unless the patient can prove they have the means to pay?
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Sgt_Strider wrote: I think given the current situation is very fluid, having insurance is very important. You don't know you'll need it until you need it. Then what? You want to come back to Canada with a six figure bill? I get most people don't buy it. It is what it is. Not my problem if they face financial ruin. Is it even possible in some countries that hospitals may not treat someone unless the patient can prove they have the means to pay?
If you do travel now, you won't qualify for travel insurance. So anyone who travels now will have to be OK with the risks, which I am. From my past experience going to some clinics in different countries, it was pretty cheap and I didn't bother sending a claim to my insurance agency.
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Pete_Coach wrote: He is correct about removing the quarantine requirement. Most European countries will be fully open July 1.

As for insurance, it may be on peoples minds more now than it was before but insurance was not a big seller before. It was always an issue with "senior" travelers or those with medical situations but not so much for young people or even people with families. I am not sure it will be the travel discriminator for those wanting to travel.
While I'll always ensure my trip is covered via a credit card just out of principle, I can't say I'd ever consider paying for an additional, stand-alone insurance policy until I'm excluded for most CC insurances. A whole lot of good those insurance companies did for all of us with this COVID-19 situation. Aside from the rare case, we all might as well have not had any insurance at all.
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mcbg1 wrote: If you do travel now, you won't qualify for travel insurance. So anyone who travels now will have to be OK with the risks, which I am. From my past experience going to some clinics in different countries, it was pretty cheap and I didn't bother sending a claim to my insurance agency.
If you are showing COVID-like symptoms, you probably won't be just visiting a clinic. If you want to play the Russian roulette with your finances, that's your choice.

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