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Update: My Wife Keeps Working Lots of Overtime without Additional Pay

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Update: My Wife Keeps Working Lots of Overtime without Additional Pay

Hi everyone,

Sorry for disappearing.
Thank you for all your responses. I'll do my best to address them here.

My wife is competent and her team and boss knows it.
She's got experience in the work and industry.
The reason why she's overloaded with work is because her job is project based.
When a big project is in effect, her job becomes crazy busy until the project is over.
In addition to that, there is a lot of paperwork being processed by another team which gets passed to my wife, which she reads over and notices errors from the previous team and it takes up more of her time.
There is just too much work being passed to her. The company needs more admins to spread out the work to.
As for her admin coworkers, they have the same problem.
In fact, my wife and her colleagues all left work tonight at 8:30pm. Same as last night. 12 hour shifts!
She and her team work the longer hours because, if not, they will fall behind.
Extra work doesn't necessarily build up. When the projects start, it's a mountain of work that needs to be chipped away at in addition to other tasks such as emails and reports.

PS. Some asked previously. Her current job is at a small-ish company. It's not large, but not so small either.

So, why does she stay at this job?
- It's in an industry that she's truly passionate about.
- The benefits are decent.
- The culture is good (aside from slave-working the admins, the company is full of friendly people and have quite a few all-expenses paid events as well as annual salary % increases)
- Although the pay is not good, it is still an improvement over her past 2-3 jobs (large corporate). They were even lower salaried positions that had messed up hours (working 3pm-midnight), and had very poor corporate culture)
- It's closer to home than previous jobs, saving on commute time.

I had a talk with her a moment ago. It seems that she sees another project that's about to be unleashed around the time her existing project will complete. It seems the non-stop OT doesn't have an end in sight. S

She agreed that if it stays like this with non-stop OT, she'll have to quit.

If I missed anybody's questions from my previous thread, please let me know.

Thanks.
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OP I think her and the other admins need to raise with management that they can handle the workload and start letting work pile and get behind on it. That’s the only way management will hire more people.
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ProductGuy wrote: OP I think her and the other admins need to raise with management that they can handle the workload and start letting work pile and get behind on it. That’s the only way management will hire more people.
I agree.
I told her that the reason why her team has been doing it this way for years (she's been there for 1 year) is because management has been getting away with it. So long as the team keeps doing what they're doing (staying long hours daily), then they will keep doing that until someone does something about it.

I suggested that she just leaves at 5pm each day, maybe even give her manager a heads up that she's got family stuff she needs to tend to so she won't be able to continue working 10~12 hour days. She's still scared to speak up, though.
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Management taking advantage of staff and no one has spoken up so it becomes the norm - not good.
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You need to let your wife figure this out and not for you to handle her problems. She's not a child.
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Something has to be done as it's affecting the family and GL with your ongoing support.

She has to leave, might be better than previous workplaces but unless she's in on project bonuses, IMO this is still too toxic.

Speaking up won't do anything if this has been going on for years. On the companies budget sheets, this is the norm.
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Messerschmitt wrote: And the reason you had to start a new thread was...
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OP, your wife needs to find another company.
Do you really think this is new?
They're not going to increase the overhead, considering it's project based work and employees are willing to work for free.
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I find it very weird that they are all willing to put in 12 hour days for such crappy pay and not receiving any overtime. It is not just an occasional thing either - and it has been going on for years in this company. Time for her to move on.
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I'm trying to get her to leave work at 5pm.
If works piles up, then work piles up.
I told her that the build up would be the company's issue to deal with, not hers.

Thanks for all your input.
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ElectroJay wrote: I'm trying to get her to leave work at 5pm.
If works piles up, then work piles up.
I told her that the build up would be the company's issue to deal with, not hers.

Thanks for all your input.
The way it sounds, it will not be the company's issue, it'll be your wife's colleagues issue.
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Feels like she's in a 'service/consulting' space, where this is almost a requirement. No one is forcing her to stay in this type of work.
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She is not being paid for this level of responsibility/commitment. If you take the actual hours she's working, she's not doing much better than minimum wage.
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weedb0y wrote: Feels like she's in a 'service/consulting' space, where this is almost a requirement. No one is forcing her to stay in this type of work.

Reminds me of administrative staff in accounting firms. Busy is inherent in the work- it comes with the job. That’s why people leave after a few years of experience there. Turnover is extremely high.

I worked at one where I got 1/5 of a secretary’s time (nature of work somewhat similar to administrative staff) and I had 4 secretaries in 1 year because they kept quitting.
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jillaryit wrote: Reminds me of administrative staff in accounting firms. Busy is inherent in the work- it comes with the job. That’s why people leave after a few years of experience there. Turnover is extremely high.

I worked at one where I got 1/5 of a secretary’s time (nature of work somewhat similar to administrative staff) and I had 4 secretaries in 1 year because they kept quitting.
I work in similar field, our hours are 60-70+, always-on, and most people who stick around prefer the fast pace, always-on (almost like a disease). So it's her choice. It doesnt stop at higher levels either. Either you like it or you dont. Growth in these fields is high, but at a personal-life cost. You almost need to have your life mapped around your work, including your life partner's expectations.
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weedb0y wrote: I work in similar field, our hours are 60-70+, always-on, and most people who stick around prefer the fast pace, always-on (almost like a disease). So it's her choice. It doesnt stop at higher levels either. Either you like it or you dont. Growth in these fields is high, but at a personal-life cost. You almost need to have your life mapped around your work, including your life partner's expectations.
Not for 48K would I do that. I very much doubt there is much room for growth in OP's wife's situation. Others there have been doing all the overtime for no pay for years and are still at that level.
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Chickinvic wrote: Not for 48K would I do that. I very much doubt there is much room for growth in OP's wife's situation. Others there have been doing all the overtime for no pay for years and are still at that level.
Doubt she is making 48K.
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Are you sure she doesn’t have a boy toy on the side?
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According to original thread, wife is a few grand shy of 50.

To be honest OP, your wife doesn’t seem to want to leave. If I was making barely 50k and working never ending unpaid overtime which was normalized, and I wasn’t constantly looking for other jobs and interviewing, there would have to be something really significant keeping me there or keeping me away from home.

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