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Valve Announces Steam Deck - Handheld PC console with your Steam library

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Valve Announces Steam Deck - Handheld PC console with your Steam library

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Direct Nintendo Switch competitor.

CPU: AMD Zen 2 4c/8t, 2.4-3.5GHz (up to 448 GFlops FP32)
GPU: 8 RDNA 2 CUs, 1.0-1.6GHz (up to 1.6 TFlops FP32)
RAM: 16 GB
Storage: 64GB, 256GB, 512GB versions; expandable with MicroSD cards
Display: 7" diagonal, 1280x800 (16:10), 60Hz LCD touchscreen
Audio: 3.5mm stereo jack, dual mics, multichannel USB-C/Bluetooth output
Controls: Two analog sticks with capacitive touch, D-pad, face buttons, analog triggers, bumpers, assignable grip buttons, "view" and "menu" buttons, gyro
Trackpads: There's two of them, and Valve says that they have "55% better latency compared to Steam Controller."
Wireless connectivity: Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
Wired connectivity: USB-C with DisplayPort 1.4 Alt-mode support; up to 8K @60Hz or 4K @120Hz, USB 3.2 Gen 2
Battery: 40Whr, "2-8 hours of gameplay"

Apparently runs stuff pretty well at 720p (Jedi Fallen Order and Doom Eternal), but highlight is obviously OBVIOUSLY being able to access your entire Steam library! If nothing else, it's a hella indie games machine for the stuff you don't necessarily need all the bells and whistles for. Target 2021 release. Discuss.
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64GB model for $399 USD
256GB model for $529 USD
512GB model for $649 USD

- custom APU developed in partnership with AMD (Zen 2 + RDNA 2)
- play your entire Steam Library
- dock
- $399 (there is a reservation fee)
- available to US, Canada, EU and UK customers for now

The Switch has the advantage with being able to hook up directly to a TV, and exclusives.
Local multiplayer games are really lacking on PC.


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looks decent, i like that its an open system so you can install any OS you want
my main concerns are: reliability since its a gen 1 product, and the use of microSD to run PC games, not sure if that impacts loading times a lot or not.
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I can't believe this was not only real but seems...good! The controls look sensible and I love the 4 back buttons they included. The battery life seems better than the Switch and 4c/8t RDNA2 is plenty to run low resolution ports and indies. The dock will make it a better HTPC than the Switch is. I was all ready to laugh this off but it seems pretty respectable. My only concern is the target market. I'm a huge nerd and will probably get one but I don't know a lot of people who want to play PC games on the go. I guess if they can get some streaming apps they can play it up as a combo mini PC game console and STB. Disappointing that the dock will be sold separately instead of included at those prices though.

Anyways weird as hell but I love moonshots and this is definitely out there.
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IGN has posted quite a few YouTube videos showing it in action. Here

Looks interesting but I’ll wait for reviews.
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I've been wondering if something like this would ever exist for years and pretty sure I posted how useful something like this could be in the PC gaming thread 4-5 years ago but the hardware wasn't there yet. I own a ton of indie games and the likes on Steam that I'm not really motivated to play at home but would absolutely play on the go on flights, train etc. I'll definitely be getting this thing and it would be exponentially more useful and valuable to me than a Switch in being able to play the vast library of games I already own.
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reminds me of the game-gear, thing is a bit chonky. not a huge fan of the bezel but thats being nitpicky.

is this device capable of that amd super sampling technology?
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Canadian prices:
$499 CAD - 64 GB
$659 CAD - 256 GB
$819 CAD - 512 GB

$5.70 CAD reservation fee; reservations open July 16 (tomorrow) at 1 PM EDT / 10 AM PDT

https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck

Current exchange rates vs. US pricing (using DuckDuckGo/XE.com):
$399 USD = $501.87 CAD -> $499 CAD MSRP
$529 USD = $665.39 CAD -> $659 CAD MSRP
$649 USD = $816.33 CAD -> $819 CAD MSRP
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I love PC gaming but this is a solid pass for me. A bit pricey, and a bit too niche for my tastes.
Valve's foray into hardware has been pretty miss and miss, but I'll give that they're trying and maybe something unexpected will stick. This could be it, but this doesn't seem for me. Neat hardware and specs though.
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BernardRyder wrote: I love PC gaming but this is a solid pass for me. A bit pricey, and a bit too niche for my tastes.
Valve's foray into hardware has been pretty miss and miss, but I'll give that they're trying and maybe something unexpected will stick. This could be it, but this doesn't seem for me. Neat hardware and specs though.
I would say the top tier one will be the popular seller because of the extra speedy storage. I ended up returning the steam controller (didn’t like it at all) way back when. I see those mouse like pads are on this one too! Like anything once you get use to it, you are comfortable with it.
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Pros: Obviously the library of games that comes with it. And that you can basically play anything that's been on Steam for the last 2 decades without worrying about backwards compatibility and things like that.

Cons: Battery life (apparently on intensive games it's basically 2 hrs). Valve's iffy history with hardware.

Verdict: Wait for 2nd iteration if any. It's always wise to have early kinks ironed out, and the 2nd version will usually retain the good about the old and throw in other stuff (OLED etc). Also if it's going to be supported or eventually dropped. Also, also, since this is just essentially a handheld PC, if it takes off others might be inclined to make their own.
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derive440 wrote: is this device capable of that amd super sampling technology?
It should be. Steam Deck is using current RDNA2 GPU tech--which is similar to AMD's RX 6000 video cards, and PS5 and XSX|S consoles. FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) support goes back a few GPU generations.

Individual PC games will need to support it, though.
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AnonymousBroccoli wrote: It should be. Steam Deck is using current RDNA2 GPU tech--which is similar to AMD's RX 6000 video cards, and PS5 and XSX|S consoles. FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) support goes back a few GPU generations.

Individual PC games will need to support it, though.
if confirmed ill probably pick it up.
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The GPU's 1.6 TFLOPS puts it just under GTX 1050 territory, not exactly fantastic for late 2021. Then again it's doing 1280x800 which is half the pixels of 1080p, so it might work out.
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BYan wrote: Also, also, since this is just essentially a handheld PC, if it takes off others might be inclined to make their own.
Oh God, I'm seeing the future and it's a plethora of shoddy Chinese knockoffs that can be purchased on Amazon, eBay, and AliExpress for half the price and none of the cool features.
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BernardRyder wrote: Oh God, I'm seeing the future and it's a plethora of shoddy Chinese knockoffs that can be purchased on Amazon, eBay, and AliExpress for half the price and none of the cool features.
You'd be surprised...

8Bitdo is a HK based maker of retro controllers that used to make 1280471240810247 products and then throw them on Ali for pennies. Then, people actually liked their stuff and they've since become a very reputable 3rd party maker of gaming controllers. I still regret not buying some of their stuff when they were still cheap AND good. Now they're still good, but the price has been jacked up quite a bit ever since their rep grew.

There will most definitely be shit Chinese knockoffs if this thing takes off. But on the plus side, there will also be great Chinese knockoffs that work as good if not better than the actual stuff but for something like 1/2 the price, simply because people don't know to look for it. Hell, I got some dudes in Shenzhen to build my PC and they stuffed everything I wanted into a console sized shell with custom wiring, which has since survived multiple 12 hr trips in airplane cargo holds AND remains as quiet as a mouse when in use. The same setup would have cost me at least $3-500 more if I had built my rig in Canada, all because I happened to be abroad and they dealt with me in local currency.

More competition can only be a good thing. Just gotta be a smart consumer and make sure you can separate the good knockoffs from the obvious cash-grab garbage. Winking Face I look forward to seeing the SteamedBun UltraMax 2.0 on Amazon, which will have all of the Steam Deck's features and come with OLED and a pirated windows installation, with instructions in terrible engrish and a card begging for a 5 star review in exchange for a $10 Amazon gift card.
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BernardRyder wrote: Oh God, I'm seeing the future and it's a plethora of shoddy Chinese knockoffs that can be purchased on Amazon, eBay, and AliExpress for half the price and none of the cool features.
Gpd win and others exist already. They're more expensive than this.

Also regarding the dock, their official one is coming, but you can use any usb c to hdmi adapters etc. They said so in their FAQ.
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The big thing wrong with these has always been price and I think Valve landed well on the right side there. Comporable PC's in the form factor are $700-800 for early adopters and $1000+ retail.
BernardRyder wrote: Oh God, I'm seeing the future and it's a plethora of shoddy Chinese knockoffs that can be purchased on Amazon, eBay, and AliExpress for half the price and none of the cool features.
There have been Chinese/Taiwanese versions of exactly this available for several years. The GPD Win 3 and Aya Neo are basically the same as this thing performance wise, but at twice the price.
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BernardRyder wrote: Oh God, I'm seeing the future and it's a plethora of shoddy Chinese knockoffs that can be purchased on Amazon, eBay, and AliExpress for half the price and none of the cool features.
Bolded part to reiterate what I'm bringing across. The GPD definitely doesn't qualify, it sounds like a good product at more than twice the price. I'm talking about the incoming avalanche of knockoffs that will falsely advertise their capabilities and create more ewaste. Like all those Switch, Vita, and PSP knockoffs.
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