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Vancouver Bans Single Use Plastic Bags On January 1, 2022

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Vancouver Bans Single Use Plastic Bags On January 1, 2022

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouv ... olicy-2022

Starting on New Year’s Day, Vancouverites are being forced by their municipal government to change their habits when it comes to using plastic bags and single-use cups.

All businesses, including retailers and restaurants, will no longer be able to provide customers with single-use plastic shopping bags.

While businesses will be able to offer customers with alternatives to plastic shopping bags, they are required to charge minimum fees of $0.15 for a paper shopping bag, and $1.00 for a new reusable shopping bag.

Coffee and tea drinks, mainly consumed with single-use cups, will also cost more. The municipal government is requiring businesses to charge a minimum fee of $0.25 for each single-use cup. The policy is intended to encourage customers to bring a reusable cup, with the city asserting this can be a safe practice during the pandemic.

However, the various new fees are not a new tax; the municipal government is providing businesses with the ability to keep the revenues to cover the cost of required software updates and staff training to meet their new annual reporting requirement on the number of single-use items they provide to customers, which is now part of the business license renewal process each year. This is also intended to allow businesses to invest in reusable alternatives.

These new policies were originally scheduled to go into effect at the start of 2021, but they were delayed due to the impacts to local businesses from COVID-19.

In 2020, the municipal government put in place new policies that limit single-use items for plastic straws, utensils, and styrofoam containers.

The municipal government claims over 82 million single-use cups and 89 million plastic shopping bags were thrown in the garbage in Vancouver in 2018. According to the city, the collection of single-use items from city-operated garbage bins and the pick-up of litter from streets and public spaces costs the municipal government about $2.5 million annually.
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So if I go to Whole Foods in Burnaby, my paper bag will still be free?
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With the pandemic still on, I don't think it's the right time for reusable shopping bags and coffee cups. New bags and new cups are more hygienic for the store staff and other customers.
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Becks wrote: So if I go to Whole Foods in Burnaby, my paper bag will still be free?
Should be free. The bylaw is Vancouver only. But I heard Surrey and Richmond have similar bans.
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The ban will be Canada wide soon. It was suppose to take effect today but was postponed due to the supply chain issues.
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Reusable bags is one thing but the reusable cup really doesn't seem like a good idea during a covid wave. I know coffee shops are suppose to have train staff to do "contactless" service with the reusable cup but its feels like we are still taking an unnecessary risk until covid is over.

My guess is more shops will be like Costco going forward given Costco hasnt used single used bags for as long as i can remember.
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Paigne wrote: Reusable bags is one thing but the reusable cup really doesn't seem like a good idea during a covid wave. I know coffee shops are suppose to have train staff to do "contactless" service with the reusable cup but its feels like we are still taking an unnecessary risk until covid is over.

My guess is more shops will be like Costco going forward given Costco hasnt used single used bags for as long as i can remember.
Costco has never used grocery bags of any kind, you have always had to bring your own. You also have to have your cart full of items checked at the exit and they can't do that if it's in bags.
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Paigne wrote: Reusable bags is one thing but the reusable cup really doesn't seem like a good idea during a covid wave. I know coffee shops are suppose to have train staff to do "contactless" service with the reusable cup but its feels like we are still taking an unnecessary risk until covid is over.
Is there any evidence that surface transmission is significant at all for the spread of the virus? Everyone was worried about that in the beginning (remember early 2020? We were all quarantining our groceries after brining them home while we went maskless in the supermarket.) But it turns out that through the air is how it spreads.
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Thank goodness I shop in Richmond. Free bags and plastic straws.
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Kiraly wrote: Is there any evidence that surface transmission is significant at all for the spread of the virus? Everyone was worried about that in the beginning (remember early 2020? We were all quarantining our groceries after brining them home while we went maskless in the supermarket.) But it turns out that through the air is how it spreads.
Not a doctor, but I imagine this would be virtually impossible to know. If health authorities were able to collect data on how each patient caught the virus at that level of detail, they could've used that data to stop the spread entirely ages ago.
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Time to look like a rebel for 'chicks' to dig when I carry those 5 cent plastic bags with me out on the streets.
To make it even more impressive, I'll have my bubble tea plastic cup on one hand, and a plastic straw on my mouth sucking on those bubbles.
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Long overdue. Really, how restaurants should approach this is that you get a $0.25 discount if you bring in a reusable cup, not that you get charged $0.25 if you use a paper cup. We may see places like McDonalds spin it like that... $2.00 for a coffee, but if you bring a reusable mug you get $0.25 off.

The plastic bags thing is even more long overdue, but I am not really a fan of replacing them with paper bags. I think the paper bags should cost $0.50 each. Why? Because reusable bags are so easy to bring. And you can also re-use paper bags. If someone can't do either of these things for whatever reason then $0.50 is a reasonable deterent. Not sure $0.15 will deter anyone.
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Kiraly wrote: Is there any evidence that surface transmission is significant at all for the spread of the virus? Everyone was worried about that in the beginning (remember early 2020? We were all quarantining our groceries after brining them home while we went maskless in the supermarket.) But it turns out that through the air is how it spreads.
Even without Covid other diseases can be transmitted this way. It just seems gross as well. How many of those personal cups aren't washed between purchases (get a coffee on the way to work and another at lunch). Also I've seen way too many guys not wash their hands after using a public washroom. The employee at the drive thru has to touch, bring it into the coffee shop and pour coffee into (hopefully not touching the cup with the pot) these dirty cups.
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I'm not sure how effective these baby steps actually are, but at least it has made us think a lot more about how much unnecessary plastic packaging we are using and disposing of every day. If only we could get manufacturers to think about it more! I think there should be a special tax on companies every time they reduce the contents of a packaged item and increase the packaging -to-product ratio with cynical disregard for the environmental consequences.

But it's hard to sort out the pros and cons of every issue. We switched from paper to plastic bags originally partly because they're much lighter and more compact to transport in bulk. If we now go back to paper, we'll burn more fossil fuel in the distribution chain. Not to mention the additional deforestation and environment-poisoning processing to produce the paper, and the eventual carbon emission from the rotting paper that was once living carbon-sequestering trees. Aaargh! Welcome to 2022!
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I for one preferred paper - but back in the day when the paper bags were much stronger than they are now.

I think that packing the reusable bags by customers rather than store clerks is here to stay. Before the pandemic, I was at a grocery store, and had a white shedding dog and a white shedding cat - and my coats are all black - and I had one of the dog's spare leashes under my collar (why I don't know) and the cashier thanked me for not having pets because some of the reusable bags that people brought in were disgusting with pet hair. I thought at first she was being facetious but no, she was sincere. Many of the other customers and cashiers were gobsmacked. The only thing I can think of is she liked white furred pets. Many people apparently do, as is evidenced by the number of people who commented on our gorgeous dog.
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Please vote out Vancouver's current mayor and his buddies on council! There is an election coming up soon. Remember the huge property tax hikes this yr and last, plus City Hall bought all that new Herman Miller furniture for themselves.
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Curious are you supposed to put your doggie poop into your pant/jacket pocket?

Do they do green waste recycling in Vancouver?
We're all bozos on the bus until we find a way to express ourselves...

Failure is always an option...just not the preferred one!
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gr8dlr wrote: Curious are you supposed to put your doggie poop into your pant/jacket pocket?

Do they do green waste recycling in Vancouver?
People will have to buy biodegradeable dog poop bags and not use shopping bags anymore.

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