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VOIP options for Telus home phone replacement?

Any suggestions for VOIP alternatives (or any cheaper option) to Telus home phone ($25 a month)? Only need local calling and use prepaid cards for long distance.

Will Telus give home phone discounts if you call in to retentions like internet/mobile?
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call Shaw and find out what they are offering for what you have with telus then call telus and see if they will give you a deal to stay. probably will cut your bill to half or more if your good at it.
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OP how much are you willing to pay?

I switched from Telus home phone to fongo a few years back, ported my Telus number over to fongo, and never looked back. No fees what-so-ever, you do have to set up a CC and deposit money into the acct, which is for LD calls, which are like less than 1 cent per minute.
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I think you'll find voip.ms to be a well recommended solution, certainly on sites such as dslreports.com. Anveo is also an option.

You looking at at least $50 in one time costs for equipment and possibly a port fee. Monthly fixed costs would be about $7, which includes E911 fees.

The real key is that with a no-frills (but robust) voip service such as voip.ms, there is no unlimited local calling. That being said, all outgoing calls within Canada are generally pretty cheap...something like 0.5 cents a minute Canadian so that's $5 for 1,000 minutes of local calling. If you're doing a ton of local calling then I'm not sure what a more suitable option is.

EDIT: All figures in USD. Fixed costs ~ $7 a month for unlimited incoming calling, versus ~ $2.50 for pay-per-minute incoming calling. Both these options include the E911 fees, otherwise subtract $1.50
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julesomar wrote: I think you'll find voip.ms to be a well recommended solution, certainly on sites such as dslreports.com. Anveo is also an option.

You looking at at least $50 in one time costs for equipment and possibly a port fee. Monthly fixed costs would be about $7, which includes E911 fees.

The real key is that with a no-frills (but robust) voip service such as voip.ms, there is no unlimited local calling. That being said, all outgoing calls within Canada are generally pretty cheap...something like 0.5 cents a minute Canadian so that's $5 for 1,000 minutes of local calling. If you're doing a ton of local calling then I'm not sure what a more suitable option is.
I went to voip.ms from Telus

$50 - Obi200
$9 USD Number Port
$2/month USD e911
$0.85/month USD maintain my ported #

By the way OP, if you talk to retentions they may offer you the $15/month phone service.
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Basically trying to cut down internet/phone costs as much as possible, or failing that get more service (really internet) for the same cost.

Currently -

Telus Basic Home Phone $25 - only use display
Telus 6/1 (100GB cap) DSL $47-$5 bundle discount. (UBB with a 100GB cap makes this unusable essentially)

Right now the options seem to be -

1) Telus retentions for both.
2) Teksavvy DSL + Telus retentions for phone (dry loop cost otherwise). Upfront cost for monthly savings (modem, activation).
3) Teksavvy Cable + VOIP. Upfront cost for monthly savings (modem, activation).

The one issue is I do need to keep things somewhat simplified as this is actually for my mom. So having to add credits and etc. online for VOIP (voip.ms) and manage minutes is probably a no go there. She just uses a prepaid card currently to sometimes call international at <1.5 cents a minute. Otherwise phone line is mainly to receive calls and occasional local calls.

I guess if Telus can actually offer $15 (or lower) for the phone that would be okay as there are also some complications regarding equipment placement (layout/aethestics reasons) within the home if going VOIP with cable internet.
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arandomguy wrote: there are also some complications regarding equipment placement (layout/aethestics reasons) within the home if going VOIP with cable internet.
With an OBi200 or OBi202 ATA and a OBiwifi adapter you can place the ATA wirelessly in your home, with the understanding that wireless connections are not as stable as wired ones: http://www.obihai.com/wifi
You can connect the ATA to the existing phone jacks in your house: http://www.voipmyhouse.com/

For a one time fee of $60+tax with www.freephoneline.ca, you can call any of these cities for free for as long as you use Freephoneline: http://www.fongo.com/calling/free/
You get unlimited minutes to those free calling areas.

You are provided with a Canadian phone number from any of these area codes: http://support.fongo.com/entries/232117 ... e-numbers-

You can port an existing phone number to freephoneline.ca for a one time fee of $25+tax if the phone number is in one of these cities: http://support.fongo.com/entries/228663 ... go-network

E911 with FPL is $35 per call, but most people have cell phones, and with VoIP.ms, you're paying $1.50 USD/month for E911 (and $0.80 USD/month with Anveo). If you make less than one E911 call every two years, you're ahead with freephoneline (compared to VoIP.ms and Cellcentric; it's about 3 years with Anveo).

Be advised that technical support for freephoneline is only offered via its user to user support forums: http://forum.fongo.com/viewforum.php?f=5
Official support is offered on a $20+tax per incident basis: http://support.freephoneline.ca/entries ... al-Support. So freephoneline is not intended for those that require a lot of hand holding.

RFD Freephoneline thread can be found here: merged-freephoneline-ca-free-local-soft ... ip-821229/

If you have a Google Voice number (requires having a U.S. IP address and a U.S. phone number for verification purposes), you can call anywhere within Canada and the U.S. for free using an Obihai ATA. Google Voice provides you with a U.S. phone number, which Americans (in that same area code) can call you for free. You can use a Google Voice number on a smartphone with the Google Hangouts app as well. Google Voice and Google Hangouts are completely free, unless you're dialing outside of Canada or the U.S.

There's no managing minutes with FPL or Google Voice, unless you're calling outside of the free calling areas.

I've been with FPL for over 5 years. My monthly bills during that time have been $0. Pretty hard to beat free.
If you decide you're interested in FPL, I would recommending running pinging/jitter tests to these SIP servers first (between
8p.m. and 11 p.m., especially on a Sunday when everyone is home in your area):
a) voip.freephoneline.ca
b) voip2.freephoneline.ca
c) voip4.freephoneline.ca
You can use WinMTR to test pings and routing to these servers: http://winmtr.net/download-winmtr/

You want relatively low pings and especially low jitter.
I'd also recommend reading up on how to enable QoS in your router for your ATA.
http://www.voipmechanic.com/qos-for-voip.htm

With an OBi200 or OBi202, you can also use other providers, like VoIP.ms as you would a calling card. You don't need to use or pay for a DID (phone number) with them. You can just make outgoing calls as you would with a calling card. So you can cherry pick long distance rates from a lot of different providers using an OBi200/202 ATA.

So, you could have FPL on SP1, Google Voice on SP2, and setup VoIP.ms as a voice gateway (or on SP3, but that's a bit of a waste).
To dial out with GV, you would dial **2. To dial out with VoIP.ms, you could dial **3 (or you can change that to whatever you want).

You could also sign up with Anveo (don't have to get a DID/phone number with them either) and use Anveo on another voice gateway or SP4. However, Anveo charges a mandatory e911 fee if you sign up stating that you're using the service in Canada or the U.S. And you could dial out using **4 (or change that to whatever you want).

And you could also be dialing over 2,000 VoIP networks for free using Sip Broker: http://www.sipbroker.com
https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=526.0 (setup instructions)

It's also a good idea to get a UPS for your ATA in the event the power goes out.

You might find some useful information in this thread: newegg-obi200-49-99-a-1744053/
Anyway, whatever you decide, good luck!
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OOMA, with upfront cost for hardware as low as $99 when on sale and regularly $129.
$4 monthly fee, plus one time charge of $40 for a port.
Or $14 (free port) monthly fee that gives you unlimited US, plus all calling features (blacklist, vm to text etc...)
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Google hangout /hangouts Dialer. Free calls to Canada and US phone lines. Hangout to hangout is free worldwide.

Anyone want to call you, make them call your cellphone. Get rid of house phone.
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I'm with freephonelines too. Haven't payed for home phone ever since I switched.
Quality is no different than what I had with Rogers. Set up my Obi with google voice in case I need to call to US. If I ever do need to call outside of US fpl and google voice's rates are quite cheap.
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