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vpn, nord vs express

now i have been using ExpressVPN for almost a year. the speed is good, almost no loss (within 5-10% of my current speed without vpn). however, something weird keeps happening to me is if you left your computer inactive while vpn is on (say downloading overnight), most of time it's gonna disconnected at some point, then i have to exit vpn totally, in some worse case, reboot computer to get online again. this is annoying. but last year it was almost free for me, so no complain. but if i have to pay $100+ bucks yearly for this, then it's a different story.

used NORDVPN for a week (trial), the speed is good too, maybe not so good as Express, but very close. i'm not sure if it's because during trial period. not sure once after trial and you paid them, any difference?

i don't have my vpn on 24/7. most of time only when I need download something. my renewal with expressvpn is coming up soon, any recommendations on vpn deals? something like express, more stable, not drop off or disconnected during overnight download? what's the market going-rate now?

info and advice appreciated.
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Look Windscribe as well.
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If all you are using your VPN for is to download torrents, etc, why not look at a Seedbox with ruTorrent? Seedbox is a server base that you upload your torrent too, it downloads the file and then you download it off the server. Been using a Seedbox for like 3-4 yrs now and will never go back to a VPN for a torrent
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kcorscadden wrote: If all you are using your VPN for is to download torrents, etc, why not look at a Seedbox with ruTorrent? Seedbox is a server base that you upload your torrent too, it downloads the file and then you download it off the server. Been using a Seedbox for like 3-4 yrs now and will never go back to a VPN for a torrent
will definitely check this out. mostly for download. but sometimes also watch some USA tv programs, or deal hunting in US.
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Frankie3s wrote: Look Windscribe as well.
How fast is Windscribe? Reviews say it's slower than NordVPN and ExpressVPN.
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techeset wrote: How fast is Windscribe? Reviews say it's slower than NordVPN and ExpressVPN.
I just saw some of those reviews too and that's valid point. Luckily, Windscribe does allow you to test the service out without having to spend a penny on a subscription. Best thing to do is to test it out for yourself. I don't use a vpn for other than subscription media services and haven't suffered any issues. I love the android app and it works rather well.
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forgetpwd wrote: will definitely check this out. mostly for download. but sometimes also watch some USA tv programs, or deal hunting in US.
What is the benefit over VPN? More secure?
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kcorscadden wrote: If all you are using your VPN for is to download torrents, etc, why not look at a Seedbox with ruTorrent? Seedbox is a server base that you upload your torrent too, it downloads the file and then you download it off the server. Been using a Seedbox for like 3-4 yrs now and will never go back to a VPN for a torrent
Just did some quick googling on seedboxes - doesn't look any less expensive than getting a VPN connection? What's the advantage if you are actually spending more for it? (plus it adds an extra step when you want to get a file).
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Anyone have opinions on Surfshark or IPVanish? (speed, reliability, ease of use)

Surfshark seems more affordably priced than NordVPN and ExpressVPN, but good value for money according to reviews.

I have used IPVanish several years ago, but understand they have new ownership now. Speeds are very fast though. But also read a review that getting around geographic streaming restrictions doesn't work as well with IPVanish as others.
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forgetpwd wrote: now i have been using ExpressVPN for almost a year. the speed is good, almost no loss (within 5-10% of my current speed without vpn). however, something weird keeps happening to me is if you left your computer inactive while vpn is on (say downloading overnight), most of time it's gonna disconnected at some point, then i have to exit vpn totally, in some worse case, reboot computer to get online again. this is annoying. but last year it was almost free for me, so no complain. but if i have to pay $100+ bucks yearly for this, then it's a different story.

used NORDVPN for a week (trial), the speed is good too, maybe not so good as Express, but very close. i'm not sure if it's because during trial period. not sure once after trial and you paid them, any difference?

i don't have my vpn on 24/7. most of time only when I need download something. my renewal with expressvpn is coming up soon, any recommendations on vpn deals? something like express, more stable, not drop off or disconnected during overnight download? what's the market going-rate now?

info and advice appreciated.
You should get a VPN that support port forwarding and Wireguard. NordVPN and express don't.

PIA, private internet access does and has better pricing. You should get it unless you are a criminal :)
Seriously, people will tell you that PIA owner should not be trusted, even if they cannot provide a single case of civil litigation that PIA collaborated.
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techeset wrote: Just did some quick googling on seedboxes - doesn't look any less expensive than getting a VPN connection? What's the advantage if you are actually spending more for it? (plus it adds an extra step when you want to get a file).
Price wise, there isn't much difference thus is why I suggested it. If all the OP does is download torrents, a seedbox is a much more safer and secure bet vs a VPN for various reasons. If the OP does geolocation and such for Netflix as well, then yes going a VPN makes more sense but that's up to the OP to decide. I have 2 lifetime VPN's + a separate seedbox, so the OP could also look at getting a lifetime VPN and call it a day.

1) 24/7 up time is the huge advantage imo. If you are on a private torrent site that requires a 50/50 ratio and a 14 day share requirement, you would have to leave your computer on for 14 straight days and hope your VPN doesn't disconnect during those 14 days. If the VPN has a killer switch, now you have just extended your 14 day share requirement. A seedbox works with both private and public torrents.

2) No letters from Bell, Rogers, Cogeco, Telus, etc.... When I was using a VPN for torrenting prior to getting a seedbox, I would get the odd email from my internet provider about copyright infringement. Since getting a seedbox, I have never received an email or letter.

3) Drop and walk away. If you are downloading a torrent with not a lot of seeders, it can take hrs/days to download the file, thus you need to leave your computer/VPN on to complete the download. With a seedbox, I download the torrent file, click and drag into my seedbox, wait for the notification on my seedbox to say it has the torrent file and start to download and I walk away. I can come back in a few hrs/days and I know the file is there for me to get it when I want it.

I can go on and on. It all comes down to how much you value your privacy and not getting those letters. If all you do is torrenting, a seedbox is the way to go imo. I'll never go back and once you realize the benefits and security of a seedbox, I guarantee you won't either. It's just so much more convenient even though there is the further step of downloading the file off the seedbox, you'll understand what I mean when you see it as it is hard to explain. Once you go seedbox, you'll never go back to a VPN for torrenting
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kcorscadden wrote: Price wise, there isn't much difference thus is why I suggested it. If all the OP does is download torrents, a seedbox is a much more safer and secure bet vs a VPN for various reasons. If the OP does geolocation and such for Netflix as well, then yes going a VPN makes more sense but that's up to the OP to decide. I have 2 lifetime VPN's + a separate seedbox, so the OP could also look at getting a lifetime VPN and call it a day.

1) 24/7 up time is the huge advantage imo. If you are on a private torrent site that requires a 50/50 ratio and a 14 day share requirement, you would have to leave your computer on for 14 straight days and hope your VPN doesn't disconnect during those 14 days. If the VPN has a killer switch, now you have just extended your 14 day share requirement. A seedbox works with both private and public torrents.

2) No letters from Bell, Rogers, Cogeco, Telus, etc.... When I was using a VPN for torrenting prior to getting a seedbox, I would get the odd email from my internet provider about copyright infringement. Since getting a seedbox, I have never received an email or letter.

3) Drop and walk away. If you are downloading a torrent with not a lot of seeders, it can take hrs/days to download the file, thus you need to leave your computer/VPN on to complete the download. With a seedbox, I download the torrent file, click and drag into my seedbox, wait for the notification on my seedbox to say it has the torrent file and start to download and I walk away. I can come back in a few hrs/days and I know the file is there for me to get it when I want it.

I can go on and on. It all comes down to how much you value your privacy and not getting those letters. If all you do is torrenting, a seedbox is the way to go imo. I'll never go back and once you realize the benefits and security of a seedbox, I guarantee you won't either. It's just so much more convenient even though there is the further step of downloading the file off the seedbox, you'll understand what I mean when you see it as it is hard to explain. Once you go seedbox, you'll never go back to a VPN for torrenting
about 2 years ago, when I was with Rogers, downloaded 3 or 4 movies without vpn (forgot turn it on), received an email in about a week. with vpn, well, i'm not a heavy downloader like you from what you said above, but downloaded some movies, tvs, sports etc, no problem so far.
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forgetpwd wrote: about 2 years ago, when I was with Rogers, downloaded 3 or 4 movies without vpn (forgot turn it on), received an email in about a week. with vpn, well, i'm not a heavy downloader like you from what you said above, but downloaded some movies, tvs, sports etc, no problem so far.
I was the same, I barely ever downloaded any torrents via a VPN simply because I didn't trust that the "kill switch" would work if it disconnected, which it didn't, thus the emails from the internet provider. With the seedbox, I am actually downloading more then I ever have before.

I primarily use Usenet when possible, but I use torrents for specific content and the seedbox gives me piece of mind

The advice I would give you is that if all you are going to use the VPN for is torrenting then go with a seedbox as it is a much better solution than a VPN and it's more or less the same cost per yr. If you also do geolocation for Netflix, etc, then look at a Lifetime sub for like $20 and still look at a seedbox. Imo, a VPN doesn't work for torrenting as it's too unreliable.

A VPN was originally designed to allow ppl traveling abroad to check on events at home. Think of it like snowbirds going to Florida in the winter. If you have ever been to Florida and try to access CTV's or CBC's website while in Florida, the US actually blocks all sites outside of the country. Thus the need for a VPN. Everything else like torrenting, dedicated IP's, etc are all addons that are simply value added options to entice ppl to buy their VPN over others, but they all have their flaws. A seedbox is designed to do many things as well outside of torrenting, but ruTorrent does everything perfect from a protection/privacy perspective
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Can a seedbox act as a smartdns or effectively a vpn for streaming video as one travels?

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