Hisense 65" Q7809 $700

coliin wrote: ↑ does anyone know the difference between the Q8809 & Q7809?

ES_Revenge wrote: ↑ The main difference between the two is actually that the Q8809 has WCG and the Q7809 does not. However someone else on here mentioned the Q7809 will actually take the fw from the Q8809 but I'm not sure if this "enables" WCG as it's not clear if the panel itself is different or if this is just some made-up limitation Hisense created in software.

Incidentally this is the same as the difference between the 2020 Q8G and Q7G--Q7G lacks WCG. As a heads up, Costco has already listed "pre-orders" for the Q7G on their site. The Q8G is the Canadian equivalent of the H8G (US) model; the Q7G is a unique Canada-only model as both the Q8809 and Q7809 were.


I've said this a few times on here. The Q8809 is NOT the H8F. The H8809 is the TV we have here that they call the H8F in the US--this is mentioned right at the bottom of the Rtings review in fact.

I have had both TVs simultaneously, a 55Q8809 and a 55H8809 (H8F). My conclusion was the H8809 is better in pretty much every way compared to the Q8809, QD notwithstanding.

ES_Revenge wrote: ↑ You would think yeah. I did too, to some degree. It has a quantum dot filter, yes, like Samsung "QLED" TVs sure. Doesn't mean much in the bigger picture (pardon the pun). QD filter is supposed to make colour better, sure, but in reality you have to understand that some things are only "on paper" differences as opposed to real world. If you read my comparo of the two (in the link) you'll see why I saw that as there's several reasons. Initially Hisense also led the press to believe the H8F (when it was released) was quantum dot, hence why some reviewers figured "ULED" was their name for QLED. Instead as it turns out the H8F/H8809 doesn't have a QD filter but instead has phosphor coated LEDs, which help to improve colour.

Also I'm not sure if it's due to the QD filter or the way they implemented it or just a different issue with the panel but the viewing angle was really poor on the Q8809. Yes it's a VA panel, yes it's going to have poor viewing angles, but it was especially poor on the Q8809 and worse than the H8809, along with pretty much everything else being worse. Again it's not a bad TV but it's hard to see why Hisense even bothered with it given they never sold it in USA (probably sold it in other places though) and the only thing one might think it competed against was a Vizio M6 and Vizio doesn't even have that much presence in Canada either. The only things I can think of are they didn't have enough allocation of H8809 units for the Canadian market and had to fill in with something else; or, they just wanted to jump on the "quantum dot" train and have something more cheaply made for a bit more profit.

All that said, now that it's only $700 for the 65" that's a pretty good deal I'd have to say. It's gonna be better than the Hisense R6 for only $50 more, so can't really complain there. I haven't paid that much attention to 65" pricing but there might not be anything better out there for the price? I think Visions still has the 65H8809 but it's $150 more at the "final clearance" price but this should again go to show that the H8809 actually costs more to make.