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Warning: Credit Card Fraud - H&M Store and BuyDeal.org

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Warning: Credit Card Fraud - H&M Store and BuyDeal.org

Story in a few words:

Placed an order with this company in BC:

H & M Store
5505 Grandview Rd
Port Alberni, BC V9Y8X7
support@handm.store
+1 2368364528

Provided all my credit card information via a secure connection.
Message came back - card declined, please use a different credit card.

I called the bank that issued the credit card - no reason why it would be declined.
I then called the phone number listed for the H&M Store - message that this number wasn't assigned.
Then googled to see if I could find any reviews about the company - came up empty.

Did a bit more searching for the product I wanted and came across another company in Niagara Falls which not only had the product for the exact same amount to the penny, but also had the same website layout.


BuyDeal Online Store
5875 Falls Ave
Niagara Falls, ON L2G 3K7
cs@buydeal.org
+1 (601) 817-0817

Googled that one and struck pay dirt:
https://ca.trustpilot.com/review/buydeal.org

Fraudulent operations!!!

I assume they can just collect credit card information including security codes and resell that.

I ended up cancelling the cards I had where I had entered the info and am getting new ones - a real pain just before Christmas.

Hopefully, posting this on RFD will bring it up in a google search for H&M
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Mar 8, 2013
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Some of their CAD prices are too good to be true.

When you search a product on google, both those scam sites will sometimes show up as sponsored ads next to legit retailers.
Newbie
Jan 13, 2019
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Yup, these are fake sites that don't stock anything, set up to trick people into buying. I was looking at a sewing machine Brother Se600, I know it sells at MSRP 599, lowest price on amazon was 465, yet this site is selling it for 269.86!!!

Someone report these sites asap.
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In my case, I was buying (or try to buy) a UPS.
Price variation even on Amazon checked with 3xcamel was wild, H&M was about 10% lower than the best amazon price, so it still seemed legit for a warehouse operation with little overhead.
Also seemed from the wide variety of products they supposedly carry that the might be buying end-of-lines or products from company that were closing down.
And listing a full Canadian address with street and phone number made it seem even more legit - often on-line retailers just provide a contact form, not even an email address.

Quite an elaborate fraud setting up an on-line shopping site with an https link - well, at least in my case getting the card info doesn't get them anything.

Hopefully this will warn others
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https is free and very easy to setup. Don't give away personal info without an https link but don't think a https link makes the owner of the website trustworthy.
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krs wrote: H & M Store
5505 Grandview Rd
Port Alberni, BC V9Y8X7
support@ handm.store
+1 2368364528
Yeah about that...
H&M is hm.com not handm.store
Provided all my credit card information via a secure connection.
Message came back - card declined, please use a different credit card.
At least you gave your card number to crooked people securely.
Hopefully, posting this on RFD will bring it up in a google search for H&M
I hope it doesn't because H&M is hm.com
krs wrote: Quite an elaborate fraud setting up an on-line shopping site with an https link - well, at least in my case getting the card info doesn't get them anything.
They're using Cloudflare for SSL. Anyone can do it in like a minute.
Even if they weren't, someone like LetsEncrypt can do it easily too.

HTTPS means nothing. Hell even before LE StartCom was giving away free certs.
Even if they weren't free, a base level cert is like $10.
Get one sucker and you have the cert paid for.
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H&M is not the same as H and M Store.
H&M is a clothing store, sells online at corporate level.
The store you got scammed on sells completely different goods.
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death_hawk wrote: Yeah about that...
H&M is hm.com not handm.store
I'm not sure what you are getting at.
What I posted is a straight copy from their website - and that's what I intended.
I can't help it if they use a name that can be confused with the clothing store.
I never thought it was the clothing store...I was trying to buy some electronic equipment.
They're using Cloudflare for SSL. Anyone can do it in like a minute.
Even if they weren't, someone like LetsEncrypt can do it easily too.

HTTPS means nothing. Hell even before LE StartCom was giving away free certs.
Even if they weren't free, a base level cert is like $10.
Get one sucker and you have the cert paid for.
Hindsight is 20/20
My only point in mentioning https was because that is something people typically look for before entering payment information
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Thanks for the heads up, important scam to be aware of in the future.
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I tried to deal with H & M, but I only checked the location after they wanted me to try another credit card.
https://tinyurl.com/re3gbuh

The Niagara Falls place came up when I googled for the same product I wanted to buy.
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Got a replacement card via Purolator at 11:00am today.

That was pretty impressive service.
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Thanks for this, it looked like a scam site, thanks for confirming.
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Nov 5, 2010
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Thanks for posting. Almost got sucked in, but as the saying goes, if price looks too good to be true...

Their Port Alberni address...
Newbie
Dec 23, 2019
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Hi, thanks for posting! I never usually post on these things, but I wanted to keep this thread alive.

Interested in buying a Honda generator and this place showed up in a sponsored add looked extremely legit. Only reason I didn't try buying from them is because I changed my mind about needing the product.

Will definitely be more careful in future...
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Nov 25, 2003
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Thanks for the heads up. I was about to buy something from the site and, thankfully, it's now down.

Here is another one that looks to be a copy of it: Morison.store
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hunterd wrote: Thanks for the heads up. I was about to buy something from the site and, thankfully, it's now down.

Here is another one that looks to be a copy of it: Morison.store
Thanks all for posting. Unfortunately I provided the info for checkout. Actually the item I wanted the price was good but not screeming low. I got to the site because was a google ad while I was browsing kijiji. I cancelled the card immediately. site is pretty elaborate. all links work even searches.

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