What to do with existing window and door sensors?

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Aug 25th, 2019 10:07 pm

Zearus007 [OP]: Newbie; Feb 12, 2017; 70 posts; 48 upvotes

Aug 25th, 2019 10:07 pm

What to do with existing window and door sensors?

Hi guys,

So my new built home came with preinstalled window and door sensors..came with limited time free home monitoring...I have cancelled monitoring service after free service was over.

Now I am left with sensors....all it does is it make low beeping sound when door opens or closes....

I am contemplating few options...

- easiest is getting monitoring service with cameras from ADT or Rogers etc but this has monthly cost
- buy nest or similar camera..one time charge but I don't know how I can make use of sensors that I already have
- buy home security system...don't know anything about this..help...heard Samsung smart hub is an option...don't have much detail

My main goal is to use existing sensors to get notified of any break-in ..also use cameras....and control all using a monitoring system ...is there such system?

Please shot some ideas ...I will appreciate it

Thanks

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Aug 26th, 2019 1:02 am

rvs007: Deal Expert; Aug 26, 2002; 15532 posts; 7245 upvotes; Toronto, ON

Aug 26th, 2019 1:02 am

If your sensors are currently hooked up to a home security system (like a DSC) then you could get an Envisalink module for it and link it to Samsung SmartThings Hub so you can self-monitor.

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Aug 26th, 2019 1:56 am

NickL645: Member; Jul 29, 2013; 214 posts; 320 upvotes; Calgary

Aug 26th, 2019 1:56 am

Check out konnected and smartthings.

Essentially allows you to tap into existing analog alarm systems and bridge into smartthings for a digital alarm system for self monitoring.

Then you can use smartthings to build automation rules for you.

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Aug 26th, 2019 6:00 am

SeanJ194: Jr. Member; Mar 1, 2017; 105 posts; 67 upvotes

Aug 26th, 2019 6:00 am

Another thing to check out is the Hub6.
https://www.safebyhub6.com/
It lets you self manage and monitor.

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Aug 26th, 2019 9:25 am

l69norm: Deal Expert; Jun 12, 2007; 20364 posts; 6507 upvotes; London

Aug 26th, 2019 9:25 am

Zearus007 wrote: ↑ ..
My main goal is to use existing sensors to get notified of any break-in ..also use cameras....and control all using a monitoring system ...is there such system?

https://www.aartech.ca/

RFD's place to shop for home security stuff

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Aug 26th, 2019 10:03 am

akswun: Deal Addict; Nov 7, 2012; 1606 posts; 926 upvotes; TORONTO

Aug 26th, 2019 10:03 am

rvs007 wrote: ↑ If your sensors are currently hooked up to a home security system (like a DSC) then you could get an Envisalink module for it and link it to Samsung SmartThings Hub so you can self-monitor.

Is there system that works with Homekit?

I have an old ADT system installed but home monitoring was cancelled with the previous owner. I left it on as it was a good to know that if a door or window was open. But after a year the alarm would go off randomly. So I decided to just unhook the battery and unplug it. The existing analog sensors are there. I'm just undecided if I want to rip out all the wiring and sensors.

Been wondering what my options are. I'm kind of stuck with Homekit as many of my smart devices are compatible.

Aug 26th, 2019 10:58 am

rvs007: Deal Expert; Aug 26, 2002; 15532 posts; 7245 upvotes; Toronto, ON

Aug 26th, 2019 10:58 am

akswun wrote: ↑ Is there system that works with Homekit?

I have an old ADT system installed but home monitoring was cancelled with the previous owner. I left it on as it was a good to know that if a door or window was open. But after a year the alarm would go off randomly. So I decided to just unhook the battery and unplug it. The existing analog sensors are there. I'm just undecided if I want to rip out all the wiring and sensors.

Been wondering what my options are. I'm kind of stuck with Homekit as many of my smart devices are compatible.

I'm not aware of any modules that work with Homekit directly. But there is an indirect way to integrating the system into Homekit, by running a Homebridge server (using a Rasbpi3) which will expose the alarm sensors to Homekit, allowing you to control them using Siri/Home App. It's not a plug & play solution but if you're comfortable with a computer, you shouldn't have any problems getting it setup.

First you should check is what panel does your ADT system have inside. If it's a DSC, then Envisalink should work with your system.

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Aug 26th, 2019 2:32 pm

snipe2014: Deal Addict; Apr 18, 2012; 1600 posts; 257 upvotes

Aug 26th, 2019 2:32 pm

akswun wrote: ↑ Is there system that works with Homekit?

I have an old ADT system installed but home monitoring was cancelled with the previous owner. I left it on as it was a good to know that if a door or window was open. But after a year the alarm would go off randomly. So I decided to just unhook the battery and unplug it. The existing analog sensors are there. I'm just undecided if I want to rip out all the wiring and sensors.

Been wondering what my options are. I'm kind of stuck with Homekit as many of my smart devices are compatible.

Yes, the honeywell lyric works with homekit. It's super neat. I have it set up and works amazing with automations and scenes.

Aug 26th, 2019 3:04 pm

akswun: Deal Addict; Nov 7, 2012; 1606 posts; 926 upvotes; TORONTO

Aug 26th, 2019 3:04 pm

snipe2014 wrote: ↑ Yes, the honeywell lyric works with homekit. It's super neat. I have it set up and works amazing with automations and scenes.

The topic at hand is specific to analog home monitoring systems like ADT, where there are sensors at doors and windows to indicate they've been open.

The Honeywell Lyric is a Smart Thermostat. Yes it is compatible with Apple Homekit. But so is my Ecobee3. There are many devices out there that are Apple Homekit compatible. I have a few of them.
I'm just looking to see if I can integrate my existing home monitoring system (ADT) with Apple Homekit as there isn't a specific built system right now.

Aug 26th, 2019 3:49 pm

DogeMusk: Deal Fanatic; Aug 25, 2005; 5458 posts; 2747 upvotes

Aug 26th, 2019 3:49 pm

anyone have an opinion on konnected vs envisalink?

Aug 26th, 2019 4:09 pm

rvs007: Deal Expert; Aug 26, 2002; 15532 posts; 7245 upvotes; Toronto, ON

Aug 26th, 2019 4:09 pm

BenK wrote: ↑ anyone have an opinion on konnected vs envisalink?

Konnected is more complicated to install and is meant for homeowners with pre-wired sensors around the house, but no "brain" for the security system. Konnected becomes the new brain for the security system.

Envisalink is an add-on module that connects to an existing (and functional) home security system, but will allow you to control and get notification on your security system's status, and thereby giving you the ability to self-monitor and not have to pay a monitoring service.

I looked into both and got opinions on both when I was trying to integrate my existing home security system into SmartThings and I ended up with Envisalink because the implementation is much easier.

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Aug 27th, 2019 10:07 am

snipe2014: Deal Addict; Apr 18, 2012; 1600 posts; 257 upvotes

Aug 27th, 2019 10:07 am

akswun wrote: ↑ The topic at hand is specific to analog home monitoring systems like ADT, where there are sensors at doors and windows to indicate they've been open.

The Honeywell Lyric is a Smart Thermostat. Yes it is compatible with Apple Homekit. But so is my Ecobee3. There are many devices out there that are Apple Homekit compatible. I have a few of them.
I'm just looking to see if I can integrate my existing home monitoring system (ADT) with Apple Homekit as there isn't a specific built system right now.

no you can't. There is no alarm system that can be integrated with homekit except the lyric

Aug 27th, 2019 10:56 am

Zearus007 [OP]: Newbie; Feb 12, 2017; 70 posts; 48 upvotes

Aug 27th, 2019 10:56 am

Any idea how to get konnected device in Canada...I see they are US based startup and price is in usd + shipping

Aug 28th, 2019 1:40 pm

akswun: Deal Addict; Nov 7, 2012; 1606 posts; 926 upvotes; TORONTO

Aug 28th, 2019 1:40 pm

snipe2014 wrote: ↑ no you can't. There is no alarm system that can be integrated with homekit except the lyric

What???

Aug 28th, 2019 2:45 pm

rvs007: Deal Expert; Aug 26, 2002; 15532 posts; 7245 upvotes; Toronto, ON

Aug 28th, 2019 2:45 pm

Zearus007 wrote: ↑ Any idea how to get konnected device in Canada...I see they are US based startup and price is in usd + shipping

They ship to Canada, but there may be custom/duty charges:

https://help.konnected.io/support/solut ... ernational

The pricing on their website is all in USD.

Aug 29th, 2019 3:20 pm

TAZ99: Sr. Member; Jan 12, 2007; 613 posts; 355 upvotes; Toronto

Aug 29th, 2019 3:20 pm

Regarding the Envisalink.
Is the self-monitor software portal free to use or is there a cost ? I believe it's called Eyez-on right ?

rvs007 wrote: ↑ Konnected is more complicated to install and is meant for homeowners with pre-wired sensors around the house, but no "brain" for the security system. Konnected becomes the new brain for the security system.

Envisalink is an add-on module that connects to an existing (and functional) home security system, but will allow you to control and get notification on your security system's status, and thereby giving you the ability to self-monitor and not have to pay a monitoring service.

I looked into both and got opinions on both when I was trying to integrate my existing home security system into SmartThings and I ended up with Envisalink because the implementation is much easier.

Aug 29th, 2019 3:35 pm

rvs007: Deal Expert; Aug 26, 2002; 15532 posts; 7245 upvotes; Toronto, ON

Aug 29th, 2019 3:35 pm

TAZ99 wrote: ↑ Regarding the Envisalink.
Is the self-monitor software portal free to use or is there a cost ? I believe it's called Eyez-on right ?

The app is free and allows you to check the status of all your zones, arm/disarm the system, and send commands to the panel remotely. You'll also get notification of all alarm activities on your device as well. The optional EnvisAlarm service is an professional off-site monitoring service available to you if you want that feature. I think it's $8.50/month.

Sep 4th, 2019 9:29 am

DogeMusk: Deal Fanatic; Aug 25, 2005; 5458 posts; 2747 upvotes

Sep 4th, 2019 9:29 am

rvs007 wrote: ↑ Konnected is more complicated to install and is meant for homeowners with pre-wired sensors around the house, but no "brain" for the security system. Konnected becomes the new brain for the security system.

Envisalink is an add-on module that connects to an existing (and functional) home security system, but will allow you to control and get notification on your security system's status, and thereby giving you the ability to self-monitor and not have to pay a monitoring service.

I looked into both and got opinions on both when I was trying to integrate my existing home security system into SmartThings and I ended up with Envisalink because the implementation is much easier.

to integrate Envisalink to SmartThings, do I need to be running something called AlarmServer off a separate PC/rpi?

Sep 4th, 2019 11:07 am

rvs007: Deal Expert; Aug 26, 2002; 15532 posts; 7245 upvotes; Toronto, ON

Sep 4th, 2019 11:07 am

BenK wrote: ↑ to integrate Envisalink to SmartThings, do I need to be running something called AlarmServer off a separate PC/rpi?

Yes, it's a small python script that communicates between Envisalink and SmartThings. A Raspberry Pi is perfect for that (and that's what I'm using to run AlarmServer).

Sep 30th, 2019 12:26 am

tetris: Deal Addict; Sep 17, 2003; 1154 posts; 147 upvotes

Sep 30th, 2019 12:26 am

Is only DSC wired be connected to envisalink or DSC wireless sensors too with DSC control panel?

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