This is what happens when you get the mechanic to change your oil.

Jun 22nd, 2016 8:41 pm

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azncapcom [OP]: Deal Fanatic; Aug 9, 2009; 5119 posts; 786 upvotes

Jun 22nd, 2016 8:41 pm

This is what happens when you get the mechanic to change your oil.

I normally do my own oil changes and normally do one before winter and after winter. However, drove more than usual this year and had to do an oil change during winter. So ended up taking the car to the mechanic to change oil as its too cold to do it myself during the middle of winter.

Fast forward 4 months... So i went to change the oil again today... and the oil filter was on so tight... this is what happened...

I normally just use a small ratchet with the oil filter removal tool to take it off... but this time it was so tight I had to use my 24" breaker bar... and guess what... that still wasn't enough as I used so much force that the metal oil filter tool snapped in half...

Ended up only changing the oil and not the filter. The oil drain plug was also on extremely tight and I had to use the 24" breaker bar to get it off.

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Jun 22nd, 2016 8:45 pm

#2

ohnabatko: Deal Addict; Jan 19, 2007; 1091 posts; 498 upvotes; Torontario

Jun 22nd, 2016 8:45 pm

the idiot has used probably the pneumatic pistol to ratchet as if with impact driver.

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Jun 22nd, 2016 8:48 pm

#3

Shaner: Deal Expert; Jul 5, 2004; 25466 posts; 4609 upvotes

Jun 22nd, 2016 8:48 pm

Yep, it's the same with all vehicles these days. I think they do it on purpose just so the average person can't get it off

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Jun 22nd, 2016 8:55 pm

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azncapcom [OP]: Deal Fanatic; Aug 9, 2009; 5119 posts; 786 upvotes

Jun 22nd, 2016 8:55 pm

I've had previous mechanics put it on tight before... but this is a new level...

Previously I used this removal tool to take it off:
http://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/a ... -p8104028e

After having a mechanic put it on too tight, i wasn't able to take it off with that wrench so i bought the one in the picture posted:
https://www.amazon.ca/toyota-Aluminum-F ... KM9W6EYFND

which worked fine with the breaker bar without too much effort.

This time a different story... I would probably say it was over 200lb-ft, probably more... when its suppose to be 18lb-ft. I wonder if putting it that tight would damaged the oil filter housing...

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Jun 22nd, 2016 9:15 pm

#5

i6s1: Deal Expert; Feb 9, 2003; 18564 posts; 2931 upvotes; Langley

Jun 22nd, 2016 9:15 pm

Yeah... I had to use my impact to get my drain plug off when I bought my truck.

But overall, real mechanics do a far better job then I do.

Jun 22nd, 2016 10:54 pm

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engineered: Deal Expert; Feb 11, 2007; 16258 posts; 17734 upvotes; Oakville

Jun 22nd, 2016 10:54 pm

Those garage monkeys aren't worthy of being called a mechanic. This is why I do everything myself, even in the winter. Also why I got myself a vacuum oil extractor.

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Jun 23rd, 2016 12:05 am

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azncapcom [OP]: Deal Fanatic; Aug 9, 2009; 5119 posts; 786 upvotes

Jun 23rd, 2016 12:05 am

Anyone know how much oil would come out if I only change the filter when my new oil filter wrench comes in? I know some cars its only the amount in the filter. Apparently ones located lower will drain out more oil? Car is a 2009 RX350.

Jun 23rd, 2016 12:12 am

#8

DJ_Peanuts22: Deal Expert; Feb 26, 2004; 26999 posts; 4317 upvotes

Jun 23rd, 2016 12:12 am

jackhammer it off next time

Jun 23rd, 2016 12:32 am

#9

er34er34: Deal Addict; May 4, 2014; 4757 posts; 5891 upvotes; Toronto, ON

Jun 23rd, 2016 12:32 am

azncapcom wrote: ↑I normally do my own oil changes and normally do one before winter and after winter. However, drove more than usual this year and had to do an oil change during winter. So ended up taking the car to the mechanic to change oil as its too cold to do it myself during the middle of winter.

Fast forward 4 months... So i went to change the oil again today... and the oil filter was on so tight... this is what happened...

I normally just use a small ratchet with the oil filter removal tool to take it off... but this time it was so tight I had to use my 24" breaker bar... and guess what... that still wasn't enough as I used so much force that the metal oil filter tool snapped in half...

Ended up only changing the oil and not the filter. The oil drain plug was also on extremely tight and I had to use the 24" breaker bar to get it off.

From the looks of it, your filter wrench tool accomodates either 1/2" drive or 24mm(or similar size) socket.

It is always better to use the socket as it puts less stress on the tool.

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Jun 23rd, 2016 1:23 am

#10

Jigsaw: Sr. Member; Oct 21, 2006; 649 posts; 404 upvotes

Jun 23rd, 2016 1:23 am

which dealership did you go to?

Jun 23rd, 2016 1:28 am

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bembol: Deal Expert; Jan 27, 2006; 18659 posts; 2388 upvotes; Woodbridge

Jun 23rd, 2016 1:28 am

This is my fourth purchase and I was surprised when I first did the oil change on my Murano.

It was so tight that the filter cap didn't work it kept slipping off. I tried several tools and I think it was a Channel Lock that did it.

I probably spent half hour on it alone.

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Jun 23rd, 2016 2:45 am

#12

Solsearchin1: Deal Fanatic; Nov 24, 2012; 5706 posts; 1883 upvotes; Space

Jun 23rd, 2016 2:45 am

Take a long flat head, drive it into the side of the filter and turn the filter off. Can't believe the filter adapter broke.

Jun 23rd, 2016 7:10 am

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mrweather: Deal Fanatic; Aug 29, 2011; 6300 posts; 3361 upvotes; Mississauga

Jun 23rd, 2016 7:10 am

Solsearchin1 wrote: ↑Take a long flat head, drive it into the side of the filter and turn the filter off.

Punch a hole in it first to drain the residual oil.

Had this happen in a previous vehicle after I took it to the dealership for its first oil change. The grease monkey torqued the filter in so tight it ripped the gasket off as I was prying the filter off. Never again.

Same with these tire shop jokers who use their impact gun set to 200 ft-lb to put the lug nuts back on.

Jun 23rd, 2016 8:32 am

#14

denti72: Sr. Member; Apr 8, 2010; 785 posts; 432 upvotes; toronto

Jun 23rd, 2016 8:32 am

wife took the car to one of those oil place changes as i was out of town and didn't have time. next oil change, same thing happened. spent about 30 getting the filter off only to find that the gasket was almost melted on. i guess the idiot to did the oil change didn't lube up the gasket on filter before putting it on. spent another 30min with a razor blade trying to scrape the rubber off.

Jun 23rd, 2016 8:33 am

#15

azncapcom [OP]: Deal Fanatic; Aug 9, 2009; 5119 posts; 786 upvotes

Jun 23rd, 2016 8:33 am

Solsearchin1 wrote: ↑Take a long flat head, drive it into the side of the filter and turn the filter off. Can't believe the filter adapter broke.

The car has a metal filter housing, that's how the metal wrench tool broke after applying so much pressure. Cant stab it with a screwdriver ( I had to do that once back when I had my corolla)

Jun 23rd, 2016 12:41 pm

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macnut: Deal Fanatic; Oct 26, 2008; 6392 posts; 2040 upvotes; BC

Jun 23rd, 2016 12:41 pm

So, a cartridge element as opposed to a canister filter. In many cases the cartridge is in a composite housing. Surprised it is metal in the Lexus and their removal tool is aluminum.

You need to be careful with transmitting force to where the housing joins the block or you will end up with a leak there.

The interesting question is how would your mechanic remove it had you taken it to him.

Probably not by using a long breaker bar. More likely by bumping it off with a few sharp raps with something like the rubber mallet in your tool tray. Much better to 'shock' it off rather than try to tear it off.

Even tap it lightly in the reverse direction first to prep. the bond for yielding.