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What ice melters are safe for concrete pavers

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What ice melters are safe for concrete pavers

Is this safe to use? I can't find out what chemical it uses. I don't want to damage the pavers, they are pretty new.

What about asphalt?

https://windsorsalt.com/product/safer-for-concrete/

Finally found a site that lists the chemicals - Blend of sodium chloride, potassium chloride and urea

Potassium chloride seems like it's ok but not sodium chloride, wonder what the blend actually is.
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Been discussed many times in this the HOME & GARDEN FORUM

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PointsHubby wrote: Been discussed many times in this the HOME & GARDEN FORUM

search.php?keywords=Melter&fid%5B0%5D=53

NOTE : RFD Forums are all searchable
Just look for the SEARCH THIS FORUM Box at the top of any directory & put in your keyword(s)

Yea I should have searched first :p

Looks like I can use it on the asphalt driveway but I won't use it on the paver porch yet
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The gist of it is. NONE.

because of the way ICE melter damage is done. NO ICE Melter is safe.

ICE melters work by lowering the melting point. So when the water penetrates the concrete and then freezes and expands it breaks off the concrete. I imagine if you used a sealer then you can somewhat use it more. But then all melters are equal.

Or just use Sand. It wont melt the ice as much, but it provides grip.
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Supahhh wrote: The gist of it is. NONE.

because of the way ICE melter damage is done. NO ICE Melter is safe.

ICE melters work by lowering the melting point. So when the water penetrates the concrete and then freezes and expands it breaks off the concrete. I imagine if you used a sealer then you can somewhat use it more. But then all melters are equal.

Or just use Sand. It wont melt the ice as much, but it provides grip.
How little does it take to cause damage or how quick can you see the damage start? My pathway rarely ices so I've only applied ice melter once this season. I guess I'll try to get some sand or screening soon.
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Squirrel99 wrote: How little does it take to cause damage or how quick can you see the damage start? My pathway rarely ices so I've only applied ice melter once this season. I guess I'll try to get some sand or screening soon.
Depends on how good your concrete is and how little water penetration it allows.

And how tolerant you yourself are of a outside surface which is designed to wear down over years.
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I use magnesium chloride pellets on my patterned concrete driveway.
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mrweather wrote: I use magnesium chloride pellets on my patterned concrete driveway.
Where can I buy that? I don't see it in stock at the big box stores
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No ice melters are safe on stone or concrete. Sand and/or grit FTW. We use volcanic stuff - works but doesn't melt ice.
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For the concrete steps and the porch ... Alaskan.

For the asphalt driveway ... mixture of Alaskan and the regular road salt.

For the sidewalk ... regular road salt.

For the asphalt driveway between the sidewalk and the road ... NOTHING!
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Squirrel99 wrote: Where can I buy that? I don't see it in stock at the big box stores
Home Hardware in Streetsville carries (carried?) it. Bought a couple of bags in the fall.
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The thing is whichever product you research on, there is always something written somewhere which scares you off. Ultimately I’ve restricted my use to a shovel and sand...have spent too much $$$ on the concrete driveway, walkway, steps and porch to risk it. Better safe than sorry.

From somewhere on the world wide web:
....”a study of concrete deterioration by deicing salts, including MgCl2 and CaCl2, at Iowa State University found that magnesium chloride was the most destructive salt with severe deterioration produced under almost all of the experimental conditions.”
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I only use it if there’s been ice build up, i.e. after a freezing rain event. Otherwise it’s strictly shoveling for me.
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I have a hot water hose bibb in the garage. Works wonders on the walkway after a freezing rain storm. I hate using it though.
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CaptSmethwick wrote: I have a hot water hose bibb in the garage. Works wonders on the walkway after a freezing rain storm. I hate using it though.
Heh, if I did that right now the remaining ice on the walkway and driveway might melt at first, but then become a skating rink in 5 minutes, it's too damn cold!

I put kitty litter on the walkway, seems to provide some good grip! I guess I can use my pressure washer to get rid of whatever litter is left after the ice and snow melt or are washed away by rain.
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Squirrel99 wrote: Heh, if I did that right now the remaining ice on the walkway and driveway might melt at first, but then become a skating rink in 5 minutes, it's too damn cold!

I put kitty litter on the walkway, seems to provide some good grip! I guess I can use my pressure washer to get rid of whatever litter is left after the ice and snow melt or are washed away by rain.
Yup. I have the slope so it's not an issue.
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CaptSmethwick wrote: Yup. I have the slope so it's not an issue.
I have a good slope too but its still too damn cold today haha
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If it was sunny out, today's -5 would be fine. Cloudy day? A big nope.
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What are concrete pavers? how does someone "Pave" concrete? I thought only ashfault can be "Paved"
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GoodFellaz wrote: What are concrete pavers? how does someone "Pave" concrete? I thought only ashfault can be "Paved"

These are concrete pavers:

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Outdoors-Ga ... 5yc1vZcic1


BTW, what is ‘ashfault’? Yeah I know old habits die hard Face With Tears Of Joy

any-tips-how-replace-single-paver-patio ... #p32420460
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