What work would my shower need?

ausername wrote: ↑A few tiles can move 1 to 2 mm nward when pressed in by hand.

badass wrote: ↑ +1 on all of the above.

If you can push your tile in then the back wall that’s holding it is gone.

You can save demolition charges by tearing it down yourself.
Installing a new wall for the tiles either using Schluter panels, or concrete/mildew resistant panels - — I would highly suggest in waterproofing it with some rubber paint as Redguard

Usually cheaper and faster when installing large tiles

Hopefully this is a second shower - if so I would stop using it as you are just causing a lot more damage with everything that’s around it. Save it and get it down right and avoid long term and expensive issues down the road.

Cheers and good luck !

ausername wrote: ↑ this is a second shower and has not been used since the tiles around the bathtub faucet was damaged.
how much, ballpark, do you think it would cost to have a contractor redo the shower?

61three wrote: ↑ I know you're not willing to go a teardown route, but with the give in the wall, bunch of places where water can penetrate, you're looking at ton of nasty stuff behind that wall. My vote is on a teardown and replacement.

It doesn't have to be too expensive on your end, you can go concrete boards or mold-resistant drywall and a thick coat of sealant over it, some nice large, cheap-ish tiles to cover it. Grout it well, seal the grout, and redo all the caulking. You'll be golden.

You got options of panels for showers too, not sure if you can find them in your size on the shelf.

Check the pan too while you're at it just so nothing busted or got under.

badass wrote: ↑ If you are looking at just the shower 48x36 area this is an approximate price:

Demo - $200-300 if you rent a small bin ($250) or if you decide to slowly get rid of it in your personal garbage day

$120 for new studs and about $160 for labour - if studs can be cleaned and still in good condition you can save of this.

Drywall Green 3x sheets $60
Red guard $80

Tiles (12x24 as they are cheaper to install) for 36x48 depending on your budget but you can get decent from Homedepot $120 plus grout n mortar $80

At 80 sq/ft for wall tiles installation this is where you will get dinged as the area is small.

$400 at the cheapest $5sq/ft or
$10 will be $800
$15 will be $1200 at
$20 will be $1600

Just on labour

At this point I would consider new shower faucet kit $80-120 basic Moen plus $80-120 installation

These are just off my head prices as I’ve just finished my basement.

If the shower base is bad then new base will be needed.

If you are in the GTA you can PM me, I might be able to give you a contact.

Cheers and good luck

ausername wrote: ↑ so i take it that it cannot just be spot patched to be fixed? why does the entire shower stall need be gutted and redone?

ausername wrote: ↑ so i take it that it cannot just be spot patched to be fixed?

ausername wrote: ↑why does the entire shower stall need be gutted and redone?

ausername wrote: ↑ There are some issues with my shower, I would like to confirm the appropriate steps before reaching out to a contractor. The shower is rectangular and 1.32m (52”) wide with a depth of 0.81m (32”), and a height of 2m (79”).

photo: https://prnt.sc/1b8vdin

The Issue:
My tiled shower stall is 30 years old. Concerns:
1. White grout lines are discoloured. Did not know about grout sealer. I use white grout paint to make it look better.
2. Some grout lines are cracked.
3. A few tiles can move 1 to 2 mm nward when pressed in by hand.
4. Tile damage around bathtub faucet due to accident.

What I plan to do:
Some have suggested to redo the entire shower stall, but I hear this is an expensive and time consuming process, so I prefer not to take this route.

Therefore, I plan to reach out to some tiling contractors to see if they can do the following:
1. Inspect and where necessary, repair the wall behind the tiles that move and that have been damaged.
2. Replace the damaged tiles.
3. Remove and replace the wall and floor grout with new grout (I am debating between traditional grout and epoxy grout).
4. Remove and replace caulking.
5. Steam clean the tiles.

Please let me know your thoughts,
Thank you

ausername wrote: ↑ so i take it that it cannot just be spot patched to be fixed? why does the entire shower stall need be gutted and redone?

Toukolou wrote: ↑ I think your problem extends further than cracked grout and loose tiles. In this case, if you want to minimize further damage and repair what is already damaged, your "preference" will likely need to be set aside.

Start with opening up a section where you suspect the most damage is, then decide from there what you need to do.

Manatus wrote: ↑ Likely the damage goes beyond what is behind just those tiles (i.e., a larger area is compromised, just not badly enough to make other tiles do that), and you won't know without looking. You would have to remove a number of tiles, replace what's behind, somehow make everything join up, replace the tiles and make it look like everything has been there from the start - that's not easy, and I think most people would say a 30 year old shower has passed its useful lifetime and it would be better to pay a bit more and make sure everything is done right and new, so you don't need to worry about this again for another few decades (hopefully). If you do a patch job, it still won't be cheap and if it doesn't work, you're out the money.

Bear in mind that if you're bringing in someone to replace a handful of tiles, the cost per tile is going to be significantly higher than if you did all the tiles (no one's going to come in and take the tiling job for $100 just because it's only a few tiles), and things like removing and replacing grout and caulking is going to cost more than just putting it on new - and then you would still have to live with a mostly 30 year old shower. It just doesn't make sense to me to not go the extra little bit and get it all done fresh.