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When do you think the CAD/US border will open?

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Poll: When do you think the CAD/US border will open?

  • Total votes: 43. You have voted on this poll.
~May 15 2020
 
3
7%
~Jun 1 2020
 
5
12%
~Jun 15 2020
 
3
7%
~July 1 2020
 
32
74%

Poll ended at Jun 26th, 2020 11:05 pm

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This poll has not gone far enough in the future... Next year, maybe.
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Hopefully this month, but it seems like 50/50 at this point. If life goes back to normal in the US and stays severely restricted here in Ontario, I would strongly consider going down to the US and spending a few months there until Ontario gets back to normal. Canadians are a lot more paranoid/fearful than the US so I can see lockdowns lasting here a lot longer.

FYI it's only the land border that is closed, you can still fly into the US for non-essential travel:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid- ... -1.5518191

While Canada has banned all non-essential travel, regardless of the mode of transportation, the United States is only banning non-essential travel across the border at land crossings and by ferry.

"At this time, this Notification does not apply to air, freight rail or sea travel between the United State and Canada but does apply to passenger rail and ferry travel between the United States and Canada," reads an order published on March 24 in the U.S Federal Register, the U.S. government's equivalent of the Canada Gazette.
Personally I'll wait until the end of May and if things are still dramatically locked down I'll just head to Miami or LA for a few months and work remotely from there.
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gei wrote: Hopefully this month, but it seems like 50/50 at this point. If life goes back to normal in the US and stays severely restricted here in Ontario, I would strongly consider going down to the US and spending a few months there until Ontario gets back to normal. Canadians are a lot more paranoid/fearful than the US so I can see lockdowns lasting here a lot longer.

FYI it's only the land border that is closed, you can still fly into the US for non-essential travel:

Personally I'll wait until the end of May and if things are still dramatically locked down I'll just head to Miami or LA for a few months and work remotely from there.
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Charles wrote: When do you think the CAD/US border will open?
Yeah, OP... You need to define what you mean by "border open". The border is open for travel, to a certain degree. There's even regular flights overseas, like YVR to HK.
https://flightaware.com/live/airport/CYVR will show you all the flights departing YVR, and you can see a number of flights to the US and other international destinations, as well as incoming flights.

As well, AC has announced that they'll be doing a "temperature check" on all passengers, as well as a new "cleaning program" to be implemented by the middle of this month. They'll also be making sure that there's at least one empty seat between passengers (i.e. no middle row in Economy class) until the end of June.
https://www.travelweek.ca/news/air-cana ... re-checks/

So I'm not really sure how to respond to your question, since the border was never really "closed" in the first place. I would expect to see more flights as rules are relaxed in different locations, but for now, AFAIK, flights between the US and Canada are being driven by demand. As that picks up, more flights will become available. AFAIK, capacity was reduced by 85 to 95%. Not sure what the expectation is by July 1, but I would guess they won't be running even 50% capacity by then. Not sure what that means as far as your "border open" poll...

ETA: Apparently AC is expecting to be running at 25% capacity in Q3:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/air-ca ... -1.5554267

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CNeufeld wrote: Yeah, OP... You need to define what you mean by "border open". The border is open for travel, to a certain degree. There's even regular flights overseas, like YVR to HK.
https://flightaware.com/live/airport/CYVR will show you all the flights departing YVR, and you can see a number of flights to the US and other international destinations, as well as incoming flights.

As well, AC has announced that they'll be doing a "temperature check" on all passengers, as well as a new "cleaning program" to be implemented by the middle of this month. They'll also be making sure that there's at least one empty seat between passengers (i.e. no middle row in Economy class) until the end of June.
https://www.travelweek.ca/news/air-cana ... re-checks/

So I'm not really sure how to respond to your question, since the border was never really "closed" in the first place. I would expect to see more flights as rules are relaxed in different locations, but for now, AFAIK, flights between the US and Canada are being driven by demand. As that picks up, more flights will become available. AFAIK, capacity was reduced by 85 to 95%. Not sure what the expectation is by July 1, but I would guess they won't be running even 50% capacity by then. Not sure what that means as far as your "border open" poll...

ETA: Apparently AC is expecting to be running at 25% capacity in Q3:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/air-ca ... -1.5554267

C
i'm referring to the border that's currently closed to regular citizens like rfd's - the CAD - USA border. I think most people understand that.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6836829/coro ... -april-18/
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Shouldn't open the border with the worst hit country in the world.
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Charles wrote: i'm referring to the border that's currently closed to regular citizens like rfd's - the CAD - USA border. I think most people understand that.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6836829/coro ... -april-18/
Well, considering (as the article you posted states) the original "ban" was renewed on April 21 for another 30 days (to May 21), your first date is out the window right from the start...
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/ ... rictions_1

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was some form of "phased in" lifting of travel restrictions, same as we're seeing with parts of the country opening up now. As I mentioned in my original post in this thread, AC is already announced that they've implemented a number of steps to make traveling safer, with the temperature checks and more empty space. The government might start opening up travel to certain locations in the States that are not as "active" as others (so no NYC trips), or they might mandate only 50% capacity on the planes, or... Who knows. But it's still going to be awhile before there's "normal" activity at the border crossings (land, air, or sea). IMHO.

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Well I was brutally wrong on the estimates of when it will re-open for car traffic.

Weirdly I heard on the radio yesterday (730 am news) an announcer mention she thought it would re-open end of Sept.....anyone heard this being a possibility?
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Its basically going to be closed until summer of next year, can't see it opening before then. All the southern states still have huge outbreaks, and with school opened up its spreading uncontrolled.
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Charles wrote: i'm referring to the border that's currently closed to regular citizens like rfd's - the CAD - USA border. I think most people understand that.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6836829/coro ... -april-18/
then you should have put "land" border in the title, as others have pointed out. Flying is and was an option.
webdoctors wrote: Its basically going to be closed until summer of next year, can't see it opening before then. All the southern states still have huge outbreaks, and with school opened up its spreading uncontrolled.
I agree,

Universities reopening are going to create a brutal 2nd wave.
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It'll likely be closed until early 2021.
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Now would be a good time for us to build that wall. America is imploding. Let’s explore partnerships with more stable governments/regimes.
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Sep 3, 2018
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I think most people will refrain from crossing the border even if it's open. Especially when number of cases are still growing in both US and Canada

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