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Is the whole mortgage industry backed up right now?

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[OP]
Jr. Member
Oct 25, 2010
102 posts
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Eastern Ontario

Is the whole mortgage industry backed up right now?

Hi all!

I have a mortgage (term up Aug 2022) with Desjardins, and I've been looking to refinance to do some debt consolidation. To be clear, I've been very happy with Desjardins, the rate they offered me last time, and the products I've had. I'm self employed and our property is zoned agricultural (only 5 acres), so we are a bit of a non-standard situation and initially getting the mortgage was a very smooth process after being rejected by a lot of lenders who won't touch agricultural zoning.

However, this time around, the communication and timeline have been a disaster, and I'm curious is this is an industry-wide phenomenon.

Jan 12: Call Desjardins to start the process of seeking refininancing. Get a phone meeting scheduled with my account manager for January 15.
Jan 15: Talk to my account manager, get offered a rate (1.94%, but with cancellation penalties.). Immediately following the call, I get an email with a few scenarios, application instructions, etc. I immediately respond to the email with some followup questions asking for an additional scenario covering a full refinancing and asking if the mortgage penalty can be waived if I move $80k in additional debt into the mortgage.
Jan 22: I send a prompting email as I hadn't gotten any response.
Feb 2: I send in the application documentation, hoping to kick-start the process.
Feb 5: Call the local branch, and the admin assistant there sends an email to my account rep with me cc'ed on my behalf indicating that I had called and was asking for an update.
Feb 8: Account rep responds indicating a correction was needed on one of the sheets, and that her schedule has been busy and would be busy for that week, but she will look at my file 'as soon as possible'. I correct the sheet that was indicated and send it back immediately.
Feb 17: Send another prompting email asking for a timeline.

Since my initial call on Jan 15, the only communication I have received from my account rep through this whole process was the brief note on Feb 8 indicating that I would be addressed 'as soon as possible'.

I'm willing to give a person or company grace because COVID is slowing a lot of things down, and we are in 'mortgage season'. However, this is rapidly becoming unreasonable. I still have no idea when my file is going to be addressed - it could be today, or it could be weeks yet. The communication has been absolutely terrible.

Is the whole industry this backed up, or am I just having a bad experience with Desjardins?
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Deal Addict
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Apr 21, 2009
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Grimsby
Last summer I was speaking with a few banks for mortgages on a handful of properties. The market was starting to get hot, and that combination with so many working from home resulted in a lot of delays for mortgages and HELOCs from what I heard.

Definitely seems that the demand for HELOCs and new mortgages has gone up significantly and many of these departments are quite behind / delayed in processing. COVID / WFH is compounding that delay too.
Deal Guru
Feb 29, 2008
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Lenders are certainly busy. Not just them but appraisers, brokers,etc. Everyone connected with the mortgage industry in some way are busy.
[OP]
Jr. Member
Oct 25, 2010
102 posts
15 upvotes
Eastern Ontario
Thanks. I guess the ultimate issue here is communication. Quite frankly - if I let a client hang for more than a few days, I would be fired from my job. I just want some level of expectation regarding a timeline.
Deal Addict
Nov 23, 2003
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Everyone is busy in mortgage industry. They will process simple stuff and new purchases first.
Sr. Member
Oct 11, 2016
565 posts
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I am in the exact same boat. Application was approved and waiting for over a week for processing......scotiabank
Member
Jan 13, 2021
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Very unreasonable. I don't care how busy they are. Communication is key. Your rep is an ass no matter how you look at it. Get rid of her if you can.
Deal Addict
Oct 27, 2012
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Toronto
Lenders are busy but they should keep you in the loop.

BMO confirmed their approval for me within 2 days of submitting everything to my specialist. CIBC took a bit longer but my rep was in communication with me as they had a bottleneck during promotional offers coming in right before the holidays. All the subsequent rate/lending amount exceptions I got were handled within 24 hours.

TD and HSBC were the worst, no communication and repeated delays. I walked away from them pronto.
Deal Fanatic
Dec 24, 2005
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some lenders are shit - others are not

HSBC made me delay closing 5 days.

RBC was very very quick.

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