Why am I getting poor network speeds on my self crimped cables.

Sep 2nd, 2020 4:34 pm

#1

PerformingAzura [OP]: Sr. Member; Nov 1, 2017; 889 posts; 343 upvotes

Sep 2nd, 2020 4:34 pm

Why am I getting poor network speeds on my self crimped cables.

Looking to install IPCameras around my house.
I've been practicing howto crimp with short cable runs, and I've noticed my devices are falling back to 100/10 instead of gigabit (or I lose packets) when I use my self terminated cables.

This is the pinout I followed: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/eb/95 ... f1063e.jpg
Plugs: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07X9V97MG/
Crimp Tool/Test: https://www.primecables.ca/p-309139-cab ... rimecables

I use scissors to cut the excess wires that come out of the plug. I crimp each plug a few times to make sure I didn't miss any. The 10T tester doesn't see any problems (even under pressure)

I've watched youtube videos... I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

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Sep 2nd, 2020 4:42 pm

#2

ProjectPixelation: Sr. Member; Jul 1, 2016; 849 posts; 436 upvotes; Toronto

Sep 2nd, 2020 4:42 pm

*slowly raises hand*

Are you using cables rated for gigabit? ._.

Pixelation~

Sep 2nd, 2020 5:45 pm

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BigBrother0: Member; Jun 9, 2012; 450 posts; 284 upvotes; Vancouver

Sep 2nd, 2020 5:45 pm

That usually happens if you crimped the cables incorrectly. Make sure split the green pair, idk why but that's something you need to do for cat5e.

Maybe not enough pressure applied on the crimp? You want to make sure the metal contacts are deep into the 8 conductor lines

Sep 2nd, 2020 5:52 pm

#4

cristianosham: Deal Addict; Sep 6, 2017; 3171 posts; 1883 upvotes

Sep 2nd, 2020 5:52 pm

how come the crimps i used did not allow the conductor to come out like yours?
I had to trim them level, make sure the outer sleeve would be squeeze in the connector before I could crimp

Sep 2nd, 2020 6:02 pm

#5

death_hawk: Deal Expert; Aug 22, 2006; 27311 posts; 12973 upvotes

Sep 2nd, 2020 6:02 pm

cristianosham wrote: ↑ how come the crimps i used did not allow the conductor to come out like yours?

Those are the fancy pass through ones.

+1

Sep 2nd, 2020 6:23 pm

#6

fordmaple: Sr. Member; Nov 6, 2014; 661 posts; 986 upvotes; Woodbridge, ON

Sep 2nd, 2020 6:23 pm

Most IP Cameras *ARE NOT* gigabit enabled. So even if you have them crimped properly the cameras don't have the technology to do gigabit even if your cables or switch can.

Sep 2nd, 2020 7:32 pm

#7

jackrabbit000: Deal Fanatic; Dec 28, 2007; 8056 posts; 4452 upvotes; Alberta

Sep 2nd, 2020 7:32 pm

Not very good reviews on the plugs.

+1

Sep 2nd, 2020 7:51 pm

#8

lead: Deal Fanatic; Nov 21, 2002; 9763 posts; 2273 upvotes; Winnipeg

Sep 2nd, 2020 7:51 pm

oh isn't putting on your own heads lovely

+1

Sep 2nd, 2020 8:26 pm

#9

BigBrother0: Member; Jun 9, 2012; 450 posts; 284 upvotes; Vancouver

Sep 2nd, 2020 8:26 pm

lead wrote: ↑ oh isn't putting on your own heads lovely

It's cheaper IMO to buy a large cat5e spool and just cut your own cables.

Sep 2nd, 2020 8:35 pm

#10

lead: Deal Fanatic; Nov 21, 2002; 9763 posts; 2273 upvotes; Winnipeg

Sep 2nd, 2020 8:35 pm

BigBrother0 wrote: ↑ It's cheaper IMO to buy a large cat5e spool and just cut your own cables.

oh it is no question. But your now knee deep into why its cheaper.

Its a niche that is dependent on quality of tools,parts, and the most important factor "practice" helps most.

+1

Sep 2nd, 2020 9:13 pm

#11

PerformingAzura [OP]: Sr. Member; Nov 1, 2017; 889 posts; 343 upvotes

Sep 2nd, 2020 9:13 pm

BigBrother0 wrote: ↑ That usually happens if you crimped the cables incorrectly. Make sure split the green pair, idk why but that's something you need to do for cat5e.

Maybe not enough pressure applied on the crimp? You want to make sure the metal contacts are deep into the 8 conductor lines

There is absolutely no resistance when I go to recrimp them. So they are pressed in as far as this crimper allows.
I have the green cable split.

The spare cabling that I'm practicing with is CAT6.
The cabling I plan on using for the cameras is 23awg CAT6A (I realize this is a waste, but it beats having to go buy a Cat5e spool).

Sep 2nd, 2020 9:21 pm

#12

PerformingAzura [OP]: Sr. Member; Nov 1, 2017; 889 posts; 343 upvotes

Sep 2nd, 2020 9:21 pm

jackrabbit000 wrote: ↑ Not very good reviews on the plugs.

I think you're right.
I thought I was getting a quality product given the price and the rating.... but I guess I was wrong.

Plus, most of the positive reviews are for the 24awg plugs, whereas I bought the 23awg.

Sep 3rd, 2020 8:31 am

#13

mindabsence: Sr. Member; Nov 23, 2004; 588 posts; 901 upvotes; Ontario

Sep 3rd, 2020 8:31 am

Make sure you cut those protruding wires back flush with the plastic connector too. This can, and probably will, cause the cables to not seat properly inside the plug would could cause poor contact on the pins and also lead to slow speeds. On tighter fitting plugs, they may not fit at all.

Sep 3rd, 2020 9:24 am

#14

willy: Deal Expert; Oct 13, 2002; 19329 posts; 987 upvotes

Sep 3rd, 2020 9:24 am

Do you have a cable tester ? An inexpensive one is good enough ... it can detect possible individual cable issue also crimping mistakes. I strongly recommend you test every self-made cable.

10/100 only needs 2 pairs ... It is possible that there might be issues with 1 (or more) of the remaining 4 wires ... just a wild guess ...