Why go Port-less? Advantages? Simply a money grab...

Oct 25th, 2020 10:02 pm

#1

bembol [OP]: Deal Expert; Jan 27, 2006; 19585 posts; 3238 upvotes; Woodbridge

Oct 25th, 2020 10:02 pm

Why go Port-less? Advantages? Simply a money grab...

We all know it's coming. It's been rumoured for a year now and we basically got a teaser with the iPhone 12, sort of by releasing MagSafe "wireless" charger. Another way to make even more money.

IMO it goes back to their (last I heard) $8 Billion in sales with beats/AirPods. I get there are cheaper alternatives but all you have to do is look around, how many are rocking AirPods (and Apple Watches) with their iPhones. Does Apple even still sell those Lightning Cable EarPods?

If this isn't the case, why make the next iPhone (13) port-less?

I always say, it's business but sometimes it's too much. It's not like they are giving out MagSafe Chargers for those who pre-order like how Samsung does with their flagships. I still have my free Fast Wireless Charger from Samsung.

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Oct 25th, 2020 10:14 pm

#2

Gangsta101: Deal Addict; Nov 30, 2016; 1542 posts; 2137 upvotes; Waterloo Region

Oct 25th, 2020 10:14 pm

Convince folks this is what they need, and if needed, tell them that it's good for the environment, then make a ton of money.

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Oct 25th, 2020 10:54 pm

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Keigotw: Deal Expert; Mar 25, 2003; 17009 posts; 5499 upvotes; Markham

Oct 25th, 2020 10:54 pm

port-less for better waterproof

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Oct 26th, 2020 12:49 am

#4

Dave98: Deal Fanatic; Sep 10, 2005; 5548 posts; 3397 upvotes; GTA

Oct 26th, 2020 12:49 am

Nothing stops iPhone users from using other bluetooth headphones or Qi compatible chargers. It's the same deal with not including a charger. Any USB-C charger will work.

On the other hand, ditching the lightning port means losing out on all the lightning related royalties.

Oct 26th, 2020 1:52 am

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Devhux: Deal Addict; Jan 13, 2014; 2865 posts; 1856 upvotes; Calgary

Oct 26th, 2020 1:52 am

Still curious how you’ll do a DFU restore without a cable. Unless there ends up being some kind of data connection with Magsafe next year, it might be tricky.

But yes, it really is about money, and Apple knows their customers will gladly fork out whatever they need to. They’ve gotten away with it with the headphones, they’re getting away with it for the charger now, and I don’t see things changing unless people actually did stop buying iPhones.

Also, before anyone says it, I fell right into their trap this year........

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Oct 26th, 2020 11:04 am

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submarine: Deal Addict; Jul 21, 2009; 1586 posts; 1237 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 26th, 2020 11:04 am

Create a problem and charge your consumers for the solution. Its the Apple way !

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Oct 27th, 2020 2:25 am

#7

batcave: Deal Fanatic; Nov 14, 2003; 6265 posts; 4877 upvotes; LaLaLand

Oct 27th, 2020 2:25 am

No ports is a bad idea in my opinion. In addition to DFU, what happens if the wireless charger or induction coil in the phone fails?

One less port also means less accessories to buy and that is bad for sales.

Oct 27th, 2020 2:29 am

#8

Devhux: Deal Addict; Jan 13, 2014; 2865 posts; 1856 upvotes; Calgary

Oct 27th, 2020 2:29 am

batcave wrote: ↑ No ports is a bad idea in my opinion. In addition to DFU, what happens if the wireless charger or induction coil in the phone fails?

One less port also means less accessories to buy and that is bad for sales.

Well, the same argument goes for what if the charging port fails- which I’d think would be more likely with cables being plugged and unplugged from them every day.

Oct 27th, 2020 4:34 am

#9

Gee: Deal Expert; Aug 2, 2004; 37301 posts; 10536 upvotes; East Gwillimbury

Oct 27th, 2020 4:34 am

Wireless charging is not as efficient as wired. That alone puts me off.

Wired charging at worse is 50% efficient, at best 80%. You lose the rest to heat

Wireless charging is probably closer to 30% efficient and 60% best case. Electricity cost the same in both cases. Why would I pay more in electricity to use wireless charging?

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Oct 27th, 2020 7:22 am

#10

Devhux: Deal Addict; Jan 13, 2014; 2865 posts; 1856 upvotes; Calgary

Oct 27th, 2020 7:22 am

Like you’re going to notice a difference in your electricity bill by going with wired charging vs wireless......

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Oct 27th, 2020 5:18 pm

#11

batcave: Deal Fanatic; Nov 14, 2003; 6265 posts; 4877 upvotes; LaLaLand

Oct 27th, 2020 5:18 pm

Devhux wrote: ↑
Well, the same argument goes for what if the charging port fails- which I’d think would be more likely with cables being plugged and unplugged from them every day.

It is very unlikely that both charging port and wireless induction coil fail at the same time.

There is also a speed difference in charging. If I need to change faster, I will plug in the cable to the phone. Overnight is fine charging wirelessly. Having both options is a good thing.

Oct 29th, 2020 3:59 pm

#12

idontwantausername: Banned; Aug 11, 2018; 996 posts; 928 upvotes

Oct 29th, 2020 3:59 pm

Keigotw wrote: ↑ port-less for better waterproof

yes, but seems kinda silly. the phone is already pretty water resistant. an electronic will never be fully waterproof. seals degrade over time.

i'd rather they increase the thickness (more battery) and leave the port. whether it's lightning or USB-C, i dont care, but portless is stupid in my eyes

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Oct 29th, 2020 8:37 pm

#13

bembol [OP]: Deal Expert; Jan 27, 2006; 19585 posts; 3238 upvotes; Woodbridge

Oct 29th, 2020 8:37 pm

Exactly.

The only time I really took advantage of the IP rating was to show it off. That was a few years ago when it first came out.

Like their environmental BS argument removing the chargers.

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Nov 15th, 2020 1:11 pm

#14

DeletedMemories: Deal Addict; Dec 22, 2007; 1581 posts; 1191 upvotes; Mississauga

Nov 15th, 2020 1:11 pm

bembol wrote: ↑ Exactly.

The only time I really took advantage of the IP rating was to show it off. That was a few years ago when it first came out.

Like their environmental BS argument removing the chargers.

I do wonder how many people used the included charge and headphones. I don't think I ever used any of the headphones and stopped using the chargers as got those usb power hubs. Would be nice if they did something like heres the phone with headphones/charger and a discount without it.

Nov 17th, 2020 2:31 pm

#15

intelpentium400: Sr. Member; Dec 15, 2017; 659 posts; 727 upvotes; Vancouver

Nov 17th, 2020 2:31 pm

I bought the iPhone 12 last week but made a point of not getting any new accessories (except a case).
Going to continue using my old chargers and headphones for the immediate future. Like mentioned earlier, the accessory money grabs are getting pretty ridiculous. That's why I like the ports for now.

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Previously: Telus EPP: 20GB/$50 - 5G
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Nov 17th, 2020 2:37 pm

#16

Grand Master B: Jr. Member; Oct 11, 2006; 159 posts; 28 upvotes; Brampton

Nov 17th, 2020 2:37 pm

Even the MagSafe I don't get.

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Nov 17th, 2020 2:43 pm

#17

bembol [OP]: Deal Expert; Jan 27, 2006; 19585 posts; 3238 upvotes; Woodbridge

Nov 17th, 2020 2:43 pm

Personally, I prefer my Samsung Fast Wireless Charger over this MagSafe.

This the beauty of having two flagships, even if Apple does go through with this portless nonsense I have options. Unless of course, Samsung follows suit.

"I'll put up color bars before I'll put you in front of our cameras."

- MacKenzie
THE NEWSROOM (HBO)

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Dec 7th, 2020 9:16 pm

#18

Keigotw: Deal Expert; Mar 25, 2003; 17009 posts; 5499 upvotes; Markham

Dec 7th, 2020 9:16 pm

48TB Node 304 / i5-3570 / Server 2016 Essentials
12TB HP Mediasmart EX 495 (E8400, 3.0GHZ, 4GB Mushkin), with Server 2016 Essentials
16TB Qnap TS-459 Pro

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Dec 8th, 2020 4:16 pm

#19

Super strokey: Deal Expert; Oct 9, 2003; 17986 posts; 956 upvotes

Dec 8th, 2020 4:16 pm

I'd be all for this if the wireless chargers were as ubitqous as the usb c chargers are now. I literally only use the port for charging so any way to get rid of it would be good by me.

That being said, I'm still waiting for the day that cellphones can sit in cradles and have full desktop capabilities. So, kinda hypocritical.

Dec 8th, 2020 5:31 pm

#20

bembol [OP]: Deal Expert; Jan 27, 2006; 19585 posts; 3238 upvotes; Woodbridge

Dec 8th, 2020 5:31 pm

This is my point not everyone wants to use the "Cloud" or stream but I guess I'm in a minority that I use the port to transfer my music and videos.

This is what Apple wants, forces you into.

Like I said hopefully Samsung keeps the microSD for a long time.

"I'll put up color bars before I'll put you in front of our cameras."

- MacKenzie
THE NEWSROOM (HBO)

Why go Port-less? Advantages? Simply a money grab...

Why go Port-less? Advantages? Simply a money grab...

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