+1... I hope this is not a sign of things to come with home automation ecosystems.ShadowVlican wrote: ↑ If SmartThings pulls the same stunt, I'm switching to Hubitat
And works locally without Internet access.
Hubitat... good community resources.knapper wrote: ↑ This move is so messed up. I am dumbfounded. I am not paying them one penny.
I have a few zwave devices, so have to figure out an alternative (thanks for the Vera link - I like the local idea). I have a couple of raspberry pi laying around, but I just checked and it looks like I would need a usb/board to get zwave capability, and that is about $65. Anyone know of other options?
Rick007 wrote: ↑ And works locally without Internet access.
IOW , If the Internet goes down, your devices will continue to operate on schedule, and you can control your devices locally, but you would lose remote control (as you would expect). Vera works with Google Home, Ecobee, Blue Iris, and many other devices with the use of add-ons.
The Vera Plus LINK for $139 works with Zwave, Zigbee, BlueTooth, and Wi-Fi. It is already to take control of your WInk devices.
The spec sheet for the Leaksmart valve says that it is a Zigbee device. However the users manual shows that it comes with it's own hub. It is not clear to me if the valve is Zigbee and can connect directly to a Vera, or if their is a proprietary connection between the valve and it's own hub, and then Vera can connect to the hub via Zigbee protocol. Did you remove the Leaksmart hub when you added the Wink?broken1arrow wrote: ↑ I have LeakSmart connected to a Wink2 hub - does the last comment mean that Vera can manage the LeakSmart system by taking over the Wink2 hub?
Per Vera's website, they don't appear to support LeakSmart.
Thank you for your quick reply.Rick007 wrote: ↑ The spec sheet for the Leaksmart valve says that it is a Zigbee device. However the users manual shows that it comes with it's own hub. It is not clear to me if the valve is Zigbee and can connect directly to a Vera, or if their is a proprietary connection between the valve and it's own hub, and then Vera can connect to the hub via Zigbee protocol. Did you remove the Leaksmart hub when you added the Wink?
The Vera should be able to do anything the Wink did, and more.
Vera cannot state that it supports a device, since it must test the device before making that claim. With so many devices on the market, it would be hard to test everything. If a device has a supported protocol (Zigbee in this case) it should work, although sometimes it will not have access to some of the extended device features. In this case I think the Leaksmart only has 2 functions, fully on and fully off (not bright, dim, flash. change color, etc., etc.) so it would most likely work.
I have a Zwave water shutoff, but if I recall my only Zigbee devices are smart bulbs but they work perfectly.
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And the offer is based on monthly fees, how is that for winning over peeved Wink owners? I actually already bought the VeraPlus and should get it on Monday. And I purchased based on my belief there will not be monthly fees...
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