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Is it worth maintaining a Big 5 bank account?

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Is it worth maintaining a Big 5 bank account?

As a newcomer, I was on Scotiabank's StartRight package. With the first year almost complete, I was wondering if its worth maintaining that chequing account. As it is, Tangerine has been my "more active" bank since December (when I finally landed a job).

The only issue with Tangerine is that they do not have a proper debit card; their client card cannot be used online.

So... Thought I'd muse aloud if it is generally a good idea to continue a relationship with Scotia/Big 5 bank here in Canada? Would it have any "benefit" in the long run? Of course, I do have their No Fee Momentum VISA too - which I might have to hold on to purely from a credit perspective as its the older of my two credit cards (by about nine months). My other stand-by is to have a savings account (for the sake of it) with Scotia and route everything else to Tangerine; just that any external transaction from the Scotia savings account will be charged.

I'm tempted to consider RBC because they offer rebates, but a) I'd have to apply for their credit card which I don't want to as I'm eyeing an Amex; b) I'm not even close to thinking of applying for a mortgage; and c) small smaple size, but not many people in my network seem to recommend RBC.

Many thanks, in advance, for your suggestions folks.
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Is it worth maintaining a Big 5 bank account?


Simple Answer is Yes.
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Yes.

Find the bank that fits your needs the best. Think about the amount of monthly transactions required, minimum balance (if required, RBC has their multiproduct rebate), and physical distance to your location.
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callernamet wrote: Is it worth maintaining a Big 5 bank account?


Simple Answer is Yes.
angel_wing0 wrote: Yes due to their ATMs around Canada. And you never know that you might need teller service.
BrokeMillennial wrote: Yes.

Find the bank that fits your needs the best. Think about the amount of monthly transactions required, minimum balance (if required, RBC has their multiproduct rebate), and physical distance to your location.
Wow, resounding yes then, thank you so much.

I hardly carry cash on me (never had to in the past year here in Canada), but I agree its better to have access to a reliable ATM network even if Tangerine currently allows me to use Scotia's. Appreciate the perspective shared.
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I, too, was part of Scotiabank's Start Right Program when my family and I moved here to Canada 3 years ago. Now, most of my daily banking has shifted to Simplii and Tangerine. I still keep my chequing account with them, just in case I need teller service, as well as my Momentum No-Fee Visa (same as yours), since it's my oldest trade line.

So yes, it's still worth it -- that is, as long as you're not paying any monthly fees.
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CanJpnPhl wrote: I, too, was part of Scotiabank's Start Right Program when my family and I moved here to Canada 3 years ago. Now, most of my daily banking has shifted to Simplii and Tangerine. I still keep my chequing account with them, just in case I need teller service, as well as my Momentum No-Fee Visa (same as yours), since it's my oldest trade line.

So yes, it's still worth it -- that is, as long as you're not paying any monthly fees.
Ah, thank you for sharing your experience!

Yes, the chequing account will come with a fee because I won't be able to meet the min. balance requirement for now. But come to think, even if I were able to, not sure if I'm ok with the idea of $3k sitting there in a chequing account when I could either invest it or put it in a savings account/GIC.
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I moved to Tangerine several years back and it has fulfilled all my daily banking needs. Previously I used to have my chequing and savings accounts at TD. I closed the chequing but still maintain the savings account at TD for any emergency needs which I have never needed in all these years. I think I’m allowed one free transaction a month. The only time my TD savings account has come in handy is when someone has to wire me money. Tangerine doesn’t accept wire transfers.
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Yes, if going with a subsidiary bank such as Simplii that offers all the benefits with no fees.
I recently moved all of my day to day banking from RBC and TD to Simplii.
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I do 90% of everything through Simplii, but still keep a free savings account with $10 in it and a unused credit card at each of the big 5. You never know when you might have to open up a relationship with them again. This also leads to pre-approvals... That $10 and unused CC at RBC led to a pre-approved 25K line of credit.
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Whoa, the Big 5 are getting a lot of love in this thread!
I don't see much use for them really. You're talking about how your Tangerine debit card is no good for online transactions, but you still have your Scotia credit card that works well and is a better choice anyway since it offers protection that no debit card does.
If you don't trust yourself with using credit, there's always Koho/Stack that offers prepaid cards.

That's not to say there aren't negatives. As pointed out above, Tangerine does not accept wires and sometimes it's just more convenient to go see a teller for a cashier's cheque. It's up to you to weigh the pros against the cons. For me it's not worth paying (or leaving a bunch of cash sitting around earning nothing) for that convenience.
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I have closed my TD, and RBC bank accounts within the past year due to fees. For a local bank I get a free checking account, at local credit union, which I suggest you look into. My main bank account I use is Tangerine.
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karthiks wrote: Ah, thank you for sharing your experience!

Yes, the chequing account will come with a fee because I won't be able to meet the min. balance requirement for now. But come to think, even if I were able to, not sure if I'm ok with the idea of $3k sitting there in a chequing account when I could either invest it or put it in a savings account/GIC.
Yes, you can always shift to a free savings account with at least one free transaction a month.

The only thing that makes me detract from closing my chequing account with them, is that occasionally, our family members in the US send us wire transfers. They're old school and don't know how to use services like TransferWise. LOL. Tangerine cannot accept wire transfers at all, and while Simplii is essentially a no-frills CIBC (heck, their institution numbers are the same: 010), I heard that they can't handle wire transfers very well. I have no problems receiving wire transfers to my BNS account.

It all depends on your needs, TBH.
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karthiks wrote: As a newcomer, I was on Scotiabank's StartRight package. With the first year almost complete, I was wondering if its worth maintaining that chequing account. As it is, Tangerine has been my "more active" bank since December (when I finally landed a job).

The only issue with Tangerine is that they do not have a proper debit card; their client card cannot be used online.
Well I won't use the term "proper debit card." In Canada not every debit card is a debit VISA or Mastercard. My Scotiabank card isn't. Neither is my RBC card.

But to answer your question YES it's worth it. I primarily bank with Tangerine and there are instances in life when having an account with one of the big 5 banks is more convenient such as when you need a bank draft. You can order bank drafts with Tangerine but do you want to have it couriered to your home or to a Tangerine Cafe? For big purchases and time sensitive matters it's just not convenient not to mention that you lack the ability to wire money.
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Unless you're wealthy or able to maintain min balances, not worth keeping a Big 5 bank due to the monthly fees. I wouldn't keep a big 5 account due to ATM network. As you said, you rarely carry cash with you so rarely would you need an ATM. Even if you need to use it for the odd time to get cash, you can still use any ATM, don't have to be one from your bank. Sure there's a fee of around $3-5, but still cheaper than the $11-16 a month you're paying if you're not maintaining fees.

I would only suggest having a big 5 bank if you're looking for perks and able to maintain a relationship with an personal banker or advisor. This usually means you need to have some sort of assets like mortgages and big secured lines of credits, and/or investments as well. You'll get to have higher interest rate discretion for investments and lower rates for lending. Could even get the monthly account fees waived too. Also check with your employment, some big companies have partnerships with a bank and can provide free banking and lower rates.
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We’ve also moved over to Simplii for my wife’s banking, but with this covid thingy and lickdown the closing of TD account is gojng to wait since her CCB payment still was sent to her old td account despite changing it online to simplii. Not sure how long CRA takes to change in its systems. That’s whats holding us up now from fully closing td.
With my rbc we get cashback every 3-4 months which sorta offsets the monthly fees as we pay off our creditcards in full every month....but the fees keep increasing

Opening/closing is a bit of a pain right mow with long lineups at banks and even call centres so we just have to stay status quo for now and avoid visits or calls unnecessarily
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I don't see a need for a bank account with a big 5.

I'd suggest an LOC.
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TWELVES wrote: I don't see a need for a bank account with a big 5.

I'd suggest an LOC.
How do you use LOC only without interest charges?
Using it would incur interest charged which defeats the purpose of not having chequing ?
I’d love to find out how tho....
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Holystone wrote: I moved to Tangerine several years back and it has fulfilled all my daily banking needs. Previously I used to have my chequing and savings accounts at TD. I closed the chequing but still maintain the savings account at TD for any emergency needs which I have never needed in all these years. I think I’m allowed one free transaction a month. The only time my TD savings account has come in handy is when someone has to wire me money. Tangerine doesn’t accept wire transfers.
Kneader wrote: Whoa, the Big 5 are getting a lot of love in this thread!
I don't see much use for them really. You're talking about how your Tangerine debit card is no good for online transactions, but you still have your Scotia credit card that works well and is a better choice anyway since it offers protection that no debit card does.
If you don't trust yourself with using credit, there's always Koho/Stack that offers prepaid cards.

That's not to say there aren't negatives. As pointed out above, Tangerine does not accept wires and sometimes it's just more convenient to go see a teller for a cashier's cheque. It's up to you to weigh the pros against the cons. For me it's not worth paying (or leaving a bunch of cash sitting around earning nothing) for that convenience.
CanJpnPhl wrote: Yes, you can always shift to a free savings account with at least one free transaction a month.

The only thing that makes me detract from closing my chequing account with them, is that occasionally, our family members in the US send us wire transfers. They're old school and don't know how to use services like TransferWise. LOL. Tangerine cannot accept wire transfers at all, and while Simplii is essentially a no-frills CIBC (heck, their institution numbers are the same: 010), I heard that they can't handle wire transfers very well. I have no problems receiving wire transfers to my BNS account.

It all depends on your needs, TBH.
GooseAkuma wrote: Well I won't use the term "proper debit card." In Canada not every debit card is a debit VISA or Mastercard. My Scotiabank card isn't. Neither is my RBC card.

But to answer your question YES it's worth it. I primarily bank with Tangerine and there are instances in life when having an account with one of the big 5 banks is more convenient such as when you need a bank draft. You can order bank drafts with Tangerine but do you want to have it couriered to your home or to a Tangerine Cafe? For big purchases and time sensitive matters it's just not convenient not to mention that you lack the ability to wire money.
Dang, I wasn't aware that Tangerine doesn't accept wire transfers. Of course, a good thing my connections also use Transferwise (so if there was ever a need to receive funds from across the border or abroad). Thank you for pointing that out, everyone.

@Kneader: Oh yes, I do have the credit card, but there are a couple of websites where using a debit is better (Transferwise being one of them). I'm comfortable using credit cards otherwise, I trust myself with credit; never had a problem.

@GooseAkuma: Wow, I didn't know that about debit cards here in Canada. My Scotia debit is a VISA and I've seen similar debits on TD/RBC/CIBC; so... I thought Tangerine's was an exception.
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DonkeyDoo wrote: I do 90% of everything through Simplii, but still keep a free savings account with $10 in it and a unused credit card at each of the big 5. You never know when you might have to open up a relationship with them again. This also leads to pre-approvals... That $10 and unused CC at RBC led to a pre-approved 25K line of credit.
25k! That's awesome. I haven't applied for a line of credit anywhere yet and I'm being advised to apply for one at the earliest. This is a new concept for me, to be honest. Haven't heard of this in other countries I've lived.
bomber17 wrote: Unless you're wealthy or able to maintain min balances, not worth keeping a Big 5 bank due to the monthly fees. I wouldn't keep a big 5 account due to ATM network. As you said, you rarely carry cash with you so rarely would you need an ATM. Even if you need to use it for the odd time to get cash, you can still use any ATM, don't have to be one from your bank. Sure there's a fee of around $3-5, but still cheaper than the $11-16 a month you're paying if you're not maintaining fees.

I would only suggest having a big 5 bank if you're looking for perks and able to maintain a relationship with an personal banker or advisor. This usually means you need to have some sort of assets like mortgages and big secured lines of credits, and/or investments as well. You'll get to have higher interest rate discretion for investments and lower rates for lending. Could even get the monthly account fees waived too. Also check with your employment, some big companies have partnerships with a bank and can provide free banking and lower rates.
Yep, its the monthly fee that I was thinking of avoiding. Even if its in the $5 range for that matter. May be I've been spoiled by free banking in other places where I've stayed, sigh. Sadly, where I work, they don't have any partnership with a big bank going. That's a bummer.
apnayloags wrote: We’ve also moved over to Simplii for my wife’s banking, but with this covid thingy and lickdown the closing of TD account is gojng to wait since her CCB payment still was sent to her old td account despite changing it online to simplii. Not sure how long CRA takes to change in its systems. That’s whats holding us up now from fully closing td.
With my rbc we get cashback every 3-4 months which sorta offsets the monthly fees as we pay off our creditcards in full every month....but the fees keep increasing

Opening/closing is a bit of a pain right mow with long lineups at banks and even call centres so we just have to stay status quo for now and avoid visits or calls unnecessarily
Ahhh, you mean the cashback with one of RBC's CB credit cards? That's one way of looking at it, thanks!

Btw, I switched the CRA thingie from Scotia to Tangerine earlier this year—on Leap Day to be specific—they made the change in a day or two. So I hope you see the change in effect soon. And yes, I want to avoid queues and stepping out; so I guess for the time being, I will downgrade to Scotia's cheapest chequing account and think about switching later - when things get better.
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