There's no reason to work if you can't socialize and entertain yourself? You're bound to become an alcoholic. I get it, it's a personal story, but a small town has a feel. I remember being up in Sault Ste. Marie and waking up everyday and going to the parking lot to blaze there, and I think it was still illegal to smoke outdoors. People would whiff, give me the strangest looks, but they let me be. I'm a smoker, not a drinker. You get to having problems when you surround yourself with just yourself? There's a deeper problem there. Let's not get into the small towns. I think people in small towns get used to strangers faster than in the big cities, where you become a product and it's up to you to decide if it's worth it or notlo23HH wrote: ↑ Its different, I can't even get a pizza (or any food for that matter) delivered in this town I recently moved to and there's nothing around, you have to drive 30km to get any decent shopping. That far north you get a much shorter summer, it can snow in June and September, doesn't leave much of a summer! Its double salary for a reason. I remember a story about a Toronto banker that got a big raise to go up to Elliot lake and run a bank, he and his wife went - but it wasn't long before his wife was hitting the bottle because there was nothing else to do. Like a 26'er a day or something crazy and they ended up moving back!
I would. I’m a downtown person and love it. But I also adore peace and quiet and if I got double the pay I would consider it. Obviously it could get lonely - it really depends on how you cope and take care of your own mental well being. I’m the type of person who could be completely alone for months and it would not bother me. So it really depends on your coping mechanisms. For some it may drive them into depression for others it may open up for a powerful journey and not only a chance at a career opportunity but a chance to know oneself. Being more isolated can actually provide an opportunity for personal growth it all depends on how you cope.lovetolearn wrote: ↑ I have a question. How many people on here who are “city people” would relocate to a small remote town of like 10,000 people ? Example: Northern Ontario? A place like Kenora Ontario or Sioux Lookout, for double your salary?
This. Highly depends on the number doubling anything less than 80k not worthZhaoW9051 wrote: ↑ What is base salary.
If it doubles 100k, to 200k, I will go. Save some money and look for another job once I am ready to move. Potentially I can save lots of money for downplay.
If it doules from 200k to 400k, I will go even if it is in Arctic. I can work until I can not tolerate , I will move to other places.
If it doules from 50k to 100k, I will not go because I think you current job underpay you and you should quit and find another job in the same city.
It depends on the money you get in the end. At least it is for me
Well if there is enough $$$ I would move to Sault Ste. Marie.stinastr wrote: ↑ There's no reason to work if you can't socialize and entertain yourself? You're bound to become an alcoholic. I get it, it's a personal story, but a small town has a feel. I remember being up in Sault Ste. Marie and waking up everyday and going to the parking lot to blaze there, and I think it was still illegal to smoke outdoors. People would whiff, give me the strangest looks, but they let me be. I'm a smoker, not a drinker. You get to having problems when you surround yourself with just yourself? There's a deeper problem there. Let's not get into the small towns. I think people in small towns get used to strangers faster than in the big cities, where you become a product and it's up to you to decide if it's worth it or not
First 2 cases I would make the move, not the 3rd one. Though I'd still keep a condo in the city as a pied-a-terre when I want to visit friends/family.ZhaoW9051 wrote: ↑ What is base salary.
If it doubles 100k, to 200k, I will go. Save some money and look for another job once I am ready to move. Potentially I can save lots of money for downplay.
If it doules from 200k to 400k, I will go even if it is in Arctic. I can work until I can not tolerate , I will move to other places.
If it doules from 50k to 100k, I will not go because I think you current job underpay you and you should quit and find another job in the same city.
It depends on the money you get in the end. At least it is for me
They mentioned Sioux Lookout, which is just after Thunder Bay, after the Agawa Canyon, Sault Ste Marie is below Thunder Bay, never made it there. Never got to see the Canyon fully but there's probably fresher air and real local groceries. It has its benefits, but when things are up and running, you gotta make it down-(Town) unless they got something a little downgraded locally. The city is a potential exuberance, like a nice car, is it efficient, does it make you much happier? You have to realize and lose focus of the glamour, but there's things to keep you busy if you're a busy bee anywhere, maybe your hobbies might change, maybe you make more like in this case, spend less and end up coming back if you feel it and upgrading. If there's opportunity, the human usually takes it and figures out where it's going. But money alone shouldn't make that rash choice, you'll have more time to yourself. Hopefully that's not a killer and you enjoy doing small things on downtime around the house.
I lived in multiples cities, provinces and countries large and small, from 700 people town to 10 million pop city, my current comfortable zone is 200k to 1mil pop city but I can be convinced if there is $$$ and benefits to go beyond my comfortable range.stinastr wrote: ↑ They mentioned Sioux Lookout, which is just after Thunder Bay, after the Agawa Canyon, Sault Ste Marie is below Thunder Bay, never made it there. Never got to see the Canyon fully but there's probably fresher air and real local groceries. It has its benefits, but when things are up and running, you gotta make it down-(Town) unless they got something a little downgraded locally. The city is a potential exuberance, like a nice car, is it efficient, does it make you much happier? You have to realize and lose focus of the glamour, but there's things to keep you busy if you're a busy bee anywhere, maybe your hobbies might change, maybe you make more like in this case, spend less and end up coming back if you feel it and upgrading. If there's opportunity, the human usually takes it and figures out where it's going. But money alone shouldn't make that rash choice, you'll have more time to yourself. Hopefully that's not a killer and you enjoy doing small things on downtime around the house.
Could be good, could be bad. No one knows, and you may not get all the information of the city online but have to see it for yourself.
Yellowknife, aside from weather, isnt that bad ..groceries fuel and housing all more expensive...but so is pay..teachers can pull 100k+. northern allowance tax break..bear20 wrote: ↑ First 2 cases I would make the move, not the 3rd one. Though I'd still keep a condo in the city as a pied-a-terre when I want to visit friends/family.
Though for the Arctic, you need to consider cost of living. Basic necessities like perishable groceries, gas, housing up in Yellowknife are not cheap!
with WFH and online shopping, going outside is optional these days.rogerrabbit168 wrote: ↑ sometimes I find even the GTA boring and small, I can't imagine myself living in a small town
Suggest some good small towns ? Given the current RE market, many would appreciate.choclover wrote: ↑ I think small towns are underrated. When I was just starting out, I remember interviewing for work in several small towns. I was willing to go wherever I could go to build my career and get established.
People that live in small towns tend to have community-oriented values and probably tend to have a higher quality of life. But if people move from a larger city, they have to be open-minded enough to appreciate what small towns are all about also.
Personally, I would never pay in the millions to buy a home in a city like Vancouver. I would either rent or move somewhere else. It is not about so much about affordability but about establishing personal limits on what is acceptable. Just because most everybody else is comfortable being indebted forever, doesn't mean that I am.
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