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Poll: Are Canadian cars overpriced

  • Total votes: 335. You have voted on this poll.
I have no voice, Canadian Dealers/Manufacturers are taking advantage of the Canadian consumer
 
112
33%
In most cases, new cars purchased in the US are almost always thousands cheaper
 
149
44%
I owe no one a living, competition is good. Thank you NAFTA!
 
61
18%
With the exchange rate factored in, Canadian prices are roughly the same
 
6
2%
With the exchange rate and financing, Canadian prices are cheaper - Buy Canadian!
 
7
2%

Poll ended at Dec 28th, 2006 1:46 pm

Newbie
Sep 26, 2005
42 posts
Prof wrote: Not sure about the 2007 Sonata, but the 2006 4cyl was made in Korea.
V6 Sonata is made in the USA Great car bye the way. Could use better seats. My wife hardly ever lets me have the car sh likes it so much.
Deal Addict
Apr 14, 2004
1177 posts
168 upvotes
Montreal
fruzmatik wrote: Hey everyone, been busy enjoying the new car.
But just wanted to confirm to everyone that i smoothly completed the entire import, registration and licensing process in a single day. Wired cash for the vehicle on monday, dealer faxed title to customs, I personally called SOA to request recall letter to be faxed to the dealer, and arranged for pickup on Thursday. Also arranged for a insurance binder from my insurance agent and sent this to dealer.

Left Toronto at 7:30AM arrived in Buffalo 10:45AM.

The longest part of the process was signing the paperwork at the dealership and going over the maintenance plans that i didnt want.

US Export took 2 minutes
Canadian Import took 5 minutes
RIV office took 15 minutes (10 minutes to find the damn place its on the 5th floor).
Canadian tire took 15 minutes (but the first Ctire's federal inspector was off that day :S). The stupid guys at Ctire tried to convince me i needed a provincial emissions and safety test done for an additional $130 but i refused flat out knowing better.

MTO asked for all my paperwork, i paid PST, and $94 for plates/registration.
I was out of the MTO by 6pm and they dont close till 9 :-).

Plenty of time to spare. Just a heads up for anyone whose impatient and does not like dealing. Ended up paying $38,500 CDN on the road (RBC purchase rate). The same vehicles MSRP in Canada is about $56,000.

Big Savings!

Thanks Guys Add me to the RFD Super Savings CLUB. :D
Was that 38500 with taxes?
[OP]
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Feb 28, 2006
1355 posts
204 upvotes
Toronto, Ontario
Here is the current list of successful RFD importers (part of the elite RFD super savers club):

Monsieurmaggot - Subaru 3.0R Outback LLBean
Tuppin - ?
yyz2hkg - Subaru
Flaming_homer - Subaru Tribeca
Tiffin - Allegro Bay 37' motorhome
Algrande - Subaru Outback XT
Fruzmatik - Subaru Tribeca
Deemo - 2005 BMW M3

Anyone else want to add to the list? I'm sure there are more of you out there.

Then there's the list started by xriddle indicating what cars have been confirmed as NAFTA vehicles:

Acura: RDX, MDX, TL, CSX,
Mazda: Mazda 6, Tribute
Honda: Accord, Civic, Pilot, CRV, Element
Toyota: Matrix, Corolla, Camry, Tundra, Tacoma, Sienna, Sequoia
Lexus: RX350 2006-07 RX330
Mercedes: R-class, ML
Mitsubishi: Galant, Eclipse, Eclipse Spyder, Raider, Endeavor
BMW: 2002-07 X5, Z4
Saab:9-7x
Subaru: Legacy, Outback, Tribeca
Suzuki: XL7
Hyundai: 2006+2007 Sonata, 2007 Santa Fe
Nissan: Altima, Armada, Titan


Okay there has to be more than just successful Subaru importers
Member
Nov 5, 2003
377 posts
4 upvotes
Monsieurmaggot,you can add me to the list also:
2007 Toyota Tacoma Doublecab 4X4 TRD Sport.
Monsieurmaggot wrote: Here is the current list of successful RFD importers (part of the elite RFD super savers club):

Monsieurmaggot - Subaru 3.0R Outback LLBean
Tuppin - ?
yyz2hkg - Subaru
Flaming_homer - Subaru Tribeca
Tiffin - Allegro Bay 37' motorhome
Algrande - Subaru Outback XT
Fruzmatik - Subaru Tribeca
Deemo - 2005 BMW M3

Anyone else want to add to the list? I'm sure there are more of you out there.

Then there's the list started by xriddle indicating what cars have been confirmed as NAFTA vehicles:

Acura: RDX, MDX, TL, CSX,
Mazda: Mazda 6, Tribute
Honda: Accord, Civic, Pilot, CRV, Element
Toyota: Matrix, Corolla, Camry, Tundra, Tacoma, Sienna, Sequoia
Lexus: RX350 2006-07 RX330
Mercedes: R-class, ML
Mitsubishi: Galant, Eclipse, Eclipse Spyder, Raider, Endeavor
BMW: 2002-07 X5, Z4
Saab:9-7x
Subaru: Legacy, Outback, Tribeca
Suzuki: XL7
Hyundai: 2006+2007 Sonata, 2007 Santa Fe
Nissan: Altima, Armada, Titan


Okay there has to be more than just successful Subaru importers
Deal Addict
Dec 30, 2005
2835 posts
722 upvotes
Monsieurmaggot wrote: Here is the current list of successful RFD importers (part of the elite RFD super savers club):

Monsieurmaggot - Subaru 3.0R Outback LLBean
Tuppin - ?
yyz2hkg - Subaru
Flaming_homer - Subaru Tribeca
Tiffin - Allegro Bay 37' motorhome
Algrande - Subaru Outback XT
Fruzmatik - Subaru Tribeca
Deemo - 2005 BMW M3

Anyone else want to add to the list? I'm sure there are more of you out there.

Then there's the list started by xriddle indicating what cars have been confirmed as NAFTA vehicles:

Acura: RDX, MDX, TL, CSX,
Mazda: Mazda 6, Tribute
Honda: Accord, Civic, Pilot, CRV, Element
Toyota: Matrix, Corolla, Camry, Tundra, Tacoma, Sienna, Sequoia
Lexus: RX350 2006-07 RX330
Mercedes: R-class, ML
Mitsubishi: Galant, Eclipse, Eclipse Spyder, Raider, Endeavor
BMW: 2002-07 X5, Z4
Saab:9-7x
Subaru: Legacy, Outback, Tribeca
Suzuki: XL7
Hyundai: 2006+2007 Sonata, 2007 Santa Fe
Nissan: Altima, Armada, Titan


Okay there has to be more than just successful Subaru importers
Tuppin IIRC was a Subaru Tribeca. I spoke to him via PM previously.
Deal Addict
Feb 7, 2006
2731 posts
1239 upvotes
[QUOTE]Monsieurmaggot,you can add me to the list also:[/QUOTE]

mmmm Honda Element
Newbie
Mar 16, 2006
24 posts
1 upvote
I've been crunching numbers on a 2007 Nissan Altima Hybrid, which has gotten great reviews compared with the Camry Hybrid and Accord Hybrid. Here are the numbers I came up with:

2007 Nissan Altima Hybrid (Carcostcanada.com)
$34,373.00 MSRP
$2,062.38 GST
$2,749.84 PST (Ontario)

$39,185.22 TOTAL

There are also two rebates available right now for Hybrid vehicles:

Federal ($1500)
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environmen ... coauto.htm
Ontario ($2000)
http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/english/tax/gu ... df/702.pdf

So the toal cost in Ontario for this car would be: $35,685.22 if you were to pay the MSRP.

I've done some research on this car in the United States, and according to Edmunds.com, most people are paying MSRP on this car. (TMV) Since it is built in the United States, it would not be subject to the 6.1% import tax.

$24,990.00 US MSRP Price
$27738.90 US rate at Exchange
$1,664.33 GST
$2,219.11 PST
$400.00 Riv Fee + gas + misc

$32,022.35 TOTAL

I'm not positive and will have to double check, but I believe that an imported car would still be eligible for the $3500 worth of rebates. If so it would be about $7000 less than buying in Canada. Wow! If you only save $3500 that wouldn't be quite as hot.

One concern I have about buying a Hybrid is that these cars really need to be serviced at a dealer, and it would get complicated to buy an extended warranty in the US.

Can anyone recommend a good dealer in the New York that sells to Canadians?
Newbie
Oct 1, 2002
98 posts
25 upvotes
Toronto
You can put me down for a 2007 Subaru Legacy GT,

also, I bought my subaru from NorthTown Subaru but NorthTown also has a few other dealerships and I am pretty sure I saw a Nissan one there so you can check them out, they're about 20 minutes across the border from Niagara Falls,
If anyone wants a dealer for Subaru, PM and I will give you my guys info,
Sr. Member
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Nov 23, 2006
840 posts
23 upvotes
Markham
:::

joedeals,

Since your choice is a Hybrid vehicles, be careful most of the
Hybrid Battary need to replace after 3-4 years. The cost
is about $4000-8000. So, Please make sure the warranty
transfer is OK at Canada....!

:::

joedeals wrote: I've been crunching numbers on a 2007 Nissan Altima Hybrid,
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Dec 24, 2004
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http://hybridcars.about.com/od/hybridca ... rycost.htm

In November of 2005, when asked about the price of a new Prius battery, Toyota spokeswoman Mona Richard said, "The service parts price for a new battery is $3000, but we have not had to sell a battery yet."
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Newbie
Mar 16, 2006
24 posts
1 upvote
Heh, thanks for the tip.. but it appears Nissan is the ONLY cars they don't sell :(

http://www.northtownauto.com/
john_rt wrote: You can put me down for a 2007 Subaru Legacy GT,

also, I bought my subaru from NorthTown Subaru but NorthTown also has a few other dealerships and I am pretty sure I saw a Nissan one there so you can check them out, they're about 20 minutes across the border from Niagara Falls,
If anyone wants a dealer for Subaru, PM and I will give you my guys info,
Newbie
Mar 15, 2007
20 posts
Hi, guys:
Buying new or buying used from dealer is ok .
They can take care of documents.

What about buying private ?
How does the seller provide "Certificate of Title" ?
Is it the same as the ownership ?
It it the same as the pink ? ( they just give you the pink and signed it on back , the car is yours ? )
Then , FAX both sides to the custom 72 hours before export , is that ture ?

thanks !
Deal Fanatic
Jul 4, 2004
5699 posts
1759 upvotes
Ottawa
flaming homer wrote: I'm looking at:

$209 RIV fee
$23 Greyhound bus ticket
I think there's also $100 AC tax (can you even buy a car without AC now)? Depending on the manufacturer, you may also have to pay to get the Recall Clearance Letter (GM charges $25).

That being said, all these fees are pretty trivial.
Deal Addict
Feb 12, 2004
1559 posts
190 upvotes
Can anyone confirm that if Acura honor their warranty in Canada? Thanks.

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