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Poll: Are Canadian cars overpriced

  • Total votes: 335. You have voted on this poll.
I have no voice, Canadian Dealers/Manufacturers are taking advantage of the Canadian consumer
 
112
33%
In most cases, new cars purchased in the US are almost always thousands cheaper
 
149
44%
I owe no one a living, competition is good. Thank you NAFTA!
 
61
18%
With the exchange rate factored in, Canadian prices are roughly the same
 
6
2%
With the exchange rate and financing, Canadian prices are cheaper - Buy Canadian!
 
7
2%

Poll ended at Dec 28th, 2006 1:46 pm

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Jun 5, 2004
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anybody imported a new bmw from US before? is warranty transferrable to canada? the US price for a 330i is 36600USD, here is $47900cad.

using exchange rate 1.112 thats 47900 - 40700 = $7200CAD difference

but i guess after gst 6% + pst 7% + 6% duty it's the same $7000 :twisted:
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Feb 28, 2006
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Are you quoting Canadian MSRP on the BMW then adding the 6.1% duty?

In both cases you will pay GST/PST. Remember you are paying PST/GST on the US purchase price (after the Feds add in the current exchange). You are not paying taxes based on the Canadian MSRP!

If my math works out, that's still a $4000 savings.

If you buy the X5 or the Z4 convertible, they are duty exempt as they are made in South Carolina.

Just found this interesting thread: Canadian Car sales generally down.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Conten ... 9048863851

It could be due to all the RFDers reading my post!
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Jun 5, 2004
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36600USD convert to canadian using 1.112 = $40699 CAD

so 40699CAD + GST $2441 + pst $2848 + duty 6% $2441 = $48429CAD

compared to $47900MSRP here + gst $2874 + pst $3353 = $54127

still save $5698 oh you're right! haha my bad :D


by the way, this whole importing thing is only if we buy the car out right, no leasing ?
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Sep 22, 2005
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plus more incentives available there like manufacturer rebates etc
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Feb 28, 2006
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I haven't even asked the US dealers about financing or leasing.

I suppose some might but I will suspect we are dealing cash only.

As Iceage pointed out many are also offering cash back or other incentives.
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Apr 11, 2005
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excel wrote:36600USD convert to canadian using 1.112 = $40699 CAD

so 40699CAD + GST $2441 + pst $2848 + duty 6% $2441 = $48429CAD

compared to $47900MSRP here + gst $2874 + pst $3353 = $54127

still save $5698 oh you're right! haha my bad :D


by the way, this whole importing thing is only if we buy the car out right, no leasing ?
Your math is mostly correct, however the PST and GST are added after you add duty. ie ($40699+$2441)*1.13=$49180
Still great deal though IMO. I imported a new Audi S4 earlier this year and am very happy with the car and savings.
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Feb 28, 2006
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I didn't know that you pay taxes on the duty.

Leave it to our government to find a way to tax a tax!
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Jul 19, 2005
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So how much is the DTRL and speedo change over?
Is the DTRL a switch or a whole housing?
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Feb 14, 2005
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Well, the BMW European delivery may not be so attractive after all. (unless you can get EU delivery into the US and then import it to Canada.

BMW M3 (based on MSRP)
US$52,865 = CAD$58,944 + 3,596 (6.1% duty) = CAD$62,540 + (15% HST) = CAD$71,921

Equivalent in Canada: CAD$86,077 (incl. HST)

Difference: CAD$14,156!!!! WOW!
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Apr 11, 2005
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I don't know about BMW but Volvo OSD (Oversea Delivery) program requires you to be a US resident with social insurance number. I just found out that when I tried to order a 2007 XC90 from a US dealer. Best thing to do is to buy a in stock car with manufacturer's incentives.
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Feb 2, 2005
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Lucky Albertains all should buy a car from US (no PST)
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Jul 4, 2004
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raymondy wrote:I don't know about BMW but Volvo OSD (Oversea Delivery) program requires you to be a US resident with social insurance number. I just found out that when I tried to order a 2007 XC90 from a US dealer. Best thing to do is to buy a in stock car with manufacturer's incentives.
Don't know how it compares with the US prices but Volvo Canada (and Mercedes and others) also have Overseas Delivery programs. Not sure how much you can actually save but the principle is that you order a car from the Canadian dealership as OSD, then you go to Europe and pick up the 'Canadian marker' car there, drive it for a while, return it to the factory (or wherever they tell you), they import it to Canada and then you take possession of it here. The money saving is that when you import it, you are now importing a used car so you only pay taxes and duty on the used value of the car (for a $20k car, there's not much savings but for a $75k car, it's pretty significant).

This is actually an excellent deal for people looking for a new car and going on a trip to Europe where they'd normally rent a car since you get to drive your 'rental-car' for free and then you save on the car purchase when you return to Canada.
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Feb 28, 2006
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A dealer in the US just offered me a 2006 Outback Limited (Moonroof, Leather), Homelink & Compass, upgraded security, bumper guards, cargo nets, console extension and trunk tray for at drive-away price of $24,250 US! That includes a $2000 US customer cash incentive (subtracted directly rom the non-haggle price of $26,250.

We didn't even negotiate. I simply asked him "what's your best driveaway price".

Holy mackerel.

If I wait a few more weeks, he says he might do even better as he gets the word to clear out the 2006s from Subaru of America.
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Apr 29, 2005
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nanirina wrote:Actaully on the contrary, a lot of US dealers I've contacted refuse to sell to Canadians (those are Toyota dealers). They said their license doens't let them do that or Toyota manufacturer gives them a rule of not selling to Canadians or something like that. That's pretty ridiculous.
Anyone else have experiences dealing with Toyota dealers near the boarder? I can't see why they would turn away customers...

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