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Poll: Are Canadian cars overpriced

  • Total votes: 335. You have voted on this poll.
I have no voice, Canadian Dealers/Manufacturers are taking advantage of the Canadian consumer
 
112
33%
In most cases, new cars purchased in the US are almost always thousands cheaper
 
149
44%
I owe no one a living, competition is good. Thank you NAFTA!
 
61
18%
With the exchange rate factored in, Canadian prices are roughly the same
 
6
2%
With the exchange rate and financing, Canadian prices are cheaper - Buy Canadian!
 
7
2%

Poll ended at Dec 28th, 2006 1:46 pm

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Apr 29, 2001
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canadiandollars wrote: boourns. That's bad news from SoA. My friend was looking to buy a WRX STi in the new year too. Oh well looks like he'll have to settle for the inflated prices here in Canada.

That being said his insurance is going to be crazy high but I guess if you can afford an STi money is almost no object, am i right???!!
I suggest you do a comparison pricing of WRX STi between Canadian and US dealership after January 3, 2008.

Even if the US dealership are selling at or near MSRP, I have a feeling it will still be cheaper than buying in Canada, by a wide margin, even after all the rebates, financing and gimmicks the Canadian Subaru can come out with.
Mark77 wrote: That's not very nice....and you're missing out on a lot of valuable knowledge if you ignore me. Your loss.
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Sep 17, 2005
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1992 TO 2007 All other passenger car
models built before September 1st,
2007, except those listed in the
inadmissible column
2008 Avalon
2008 Camry
2008 Camry HV
2008 Camry Solara
2008 Yaris Sedan built after September
1st, 2007. [EIS] (see notes)
2008 Yaris Hatchback built after
September 1st, 2007. [EIS] (see notes)
2008 Corolla built after September 1st,
2007. [EIS] (see notes)
2008 Prius built after September 1st,
2007. [EIS] (see notes)
2008 Matrix built after September 1st,
2007. [EIS] (see notes)


InAdmissible
1992 Corolla
1992 TO 1994 Tercel /
Paseo
2000 SC400/300
2000 TO 2005 MR2
2005 AND 2006 Scion TC
2008 Scion
See explanations section.
[EIS]: See explanations section, paragraphs
#4(3) and #9.


WTF.. what happened to the other 2008 models? The last list had all 2008 Toyota/Lexus except Yaris ? Am I reading this wrong? I was planning to get a 2008 Lexus IS 350. Got to phone riv.ca.
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Nov 28, 2007
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jadeboy wrote: ......

WTF.. what happened to the other 2008 models? The last list had all 2008 Toyota/Lexus except Yaris ? Am I reading this wrong? I was planning to get a 2008 Lexus IS 350. Got to phone riv.ca.
Which other 2008 models are you interested in?

MPVs and P/Us are listed in other sections of the VAFUS list.

Almost all 2008 Toyota/Lexus passenger cars are admissible per the pasted list - mostly subject to the EIS proof. For instance, all Corollas (except the 1992) are admissible - pre-Sep 1st unconditionally and post-Sep 1 subject to EIS.

However, I see no reference to a 2008 Lexus IS 350 in the ADMISSIBLE column ... therefore it is inadmissible. Also, no 2008 Lexus of any model is admissible. That's the way I read it.
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Sep 17, 2005
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Marzipan wrote: However, I see no reference to a 2008 Lexus IS 350 in the ADMISSIBLE column ... therefore it is inadmissible. Also, no 2008 Lexus of any model is admissible. That's the way I read it.
Toyota/Lexus
1992 TO 2008 All other passenger
car models except those listed in
the inadmissible column
2008 Yaris Sedan, if built after
September 1st, 2007 ~ (see notes)

InAdmissible
1992 Corolla
1992 TO 1994 Tercel / Paseo
2000 SC400/300
2000 TO 2005 MR2
2005 AND 2006 Scion TC
2008 Yaris Hatchback built after
September 1st, 2007
2008 Corolla built after september
1st, 2007
2008 Prius built after September
1st, 2007
2008 Matrix built after September
1st, 2007
2008 Scion

This was the last list until the latest one. It was importable and I have phoned riv.ca and the confirmed it was admissible

http://www.carswithoutborders.com/wordp ... -12-07.pdf

What in the world is going on at Transport Canada?
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Jan 2, 2005
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webbyx wrote: I live in Saskatchewan and I also am looking into getting a new 2008 Toyota Sienna. If anyone has had any success with finding a Toyota dealer who will sell to Canadians could you please PM me as well.

Thanks.
Please add my name to the list as well.
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Sep 30, 2007
32 posts
Ottawa
perfchris wrote: Out of curiosity, did anyone notice the new Canadian flag that GM has designed ? It looks strange ! Imagine if they had done that to the US flag !
I did notice the GM Canadian flag... But as far as I remember the US flag didn't have any stars in it...?
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Sep 10, 2006
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It's really good with the new list from RIV.



jadeboy wrote: 1992 TO 2007 All other passenger car
models built before September 1st,
2007, except those listed in the
inadmissible column
2008 Avalon
2008 Camry
2008 Camry HV
2008 Camry Solara
2008 Yaris Sedan built after September
1st, 2007. [EIS] (see notes)
2008 Yaris Hatchback built after
September 1st, 2007. [EIS] (see notes)
2008 Corolla built after September 1st,
2007. [EIS] (see notes)
2008 Prius built after September 1st,
2007. [EIS] (see notes)
2008 Matrix built after September 1st,
2007. [EIS] (see notes)


InAdmissible
1992 Corolla
1992 TO 1994 Tercel /
Paseo
2000 SC400/300
2000 TO 2005 MR2
2005 AND 2006 Scion TC
2008 Scion
See explanations section.
[EIS]: See explanations section, paragraphs
#4(3) and #9.


WTF.. what happened to the other 2008 models? The last list had all 2008 Toyota/Lexus except Yaris ? Am I reading this wrong? I was planning to get a 2008 Lexus IS 350. Got to phone riv.ca.
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Nov 2, 2003
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SubieOwner wrote: see: http://www.reportonbusiness.com/servlet ... bNews/home

Interesting data in today's Globe and Mail Report on Business regarding the current new car market in Canada. Perhaps we should share this information with the manufacturers as well as the dealers (if they didn't know already).
Interesting article.
The manufactures will only listen to their drone, as Diigii calls him, the Mathimagician. He'll figure out away to make it sound like it's not affecting the Canadian auto industry.
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Dec 22, 2007
3 posts
162 wrote: Please add my name to the list as well.
You have to find a toyota dealer that is independantly owned (not owned by Toyota Corporation), they will have more flexibility to buck the system. I bought my AWD Limited Sienna (08) in Couer d'Alene and brought it into Cdn in October. Saved over $18,000. (no that is not a misprint). I do not know the current savings with the subsidies now given to Canadians, but I for one got fed up of the gouging here :razz: and headed south.
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Dec 5, 2007
14 posts
Thornhill
Bought an Accord in Canada!!

I was considering buying an Outback for my wife from VBS. Spoke to Karl and was impressed with his demeanor, etc. I had my wife test drive an Outback from a local dealer to see if see would like it. Turns out she didn’t: she found that it was kinda weird looking out the back window of a wagon, was noisy and that the 2.5i seemed underpowered. I drove the car as well and also felt it was underpowered and thought it could use a 5th gear. In any case, the car is for her and she had to like it. I took her to a local Honda dealer and she loved the looks of the new Accord. She drove the 4 cyl. 190 hp EX-L and loved it. So we bought the car for $31,744.00 CDN, all in. I calculated that the same car would cost me $28,116.00 in the US (the calculation assumes that I could buy the car at $500.00 over invoice). The difference between the CDN & US price would be approximately $3600.00. I felt it made sense to buy the car locally as
  1. the dealer was willing to buy my ’05 Acura which has 2 months left in the lease, thus saving me $1070.00
  2. I save the time and expense (of several hundred bucks) of importing the car
  3. no warranty issue (if I purchased an aftermarket warranty I gather from reading this and other threads that it could cost me about $1000.00 or so)
So, when all is said and done, I would save approximately $1000 - $2000 depending on whether or not I purchased a third party warranty. Not worth it IMHO (and my wife is happy--most important!)
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May 13, 2006
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[quote="yowmaven" post_id="6148546" time="1198535710" user_id="129749"]Bought an Accord in Canada!!

I was considering buying an Outback for my wife from VBS. Spoke to Karl and was impressed with his demeanor, etc. I had my wife test drive an Outback from a local dealer to see if see would like it. Turns out she didn
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Dec 5, 2007
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Thornhill
[QUOTE]2008 Honda Accord
EX-L 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 5A)
MSRP Invoice $25,860 $23,428[/QUOTE]

Yes, of course you are correct. However, my calculation is "all in" as follows:

invoice: $23,428
plus: $500 (over the invoice price)
freight: $635
GST & PST: $3280
RIV fee and incidentals: a few hundred dollars

= approx. $28,116
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Nov 23, 2007
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Tecumseh
I test drove a Toyota Camry Hybrid today in Windsor, Ontario and I really like it.

They want $42,500 inc tax - 500 Toyota rebate - 3500 (federal and provincial rebates) = $38500 Total

I figure the US price is around $29,700 then Canadian taxes = $33,857

Has anyone had any experience bringing in one of these, can anyone offer any advice about this, is it worth the $3500 savings for the hassle I would have to go through going over the border to get it, also would the dealer here in Windsor warranty it.

Thanks - Jason.
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Jul 30, 2007
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Edmonton, Alberta
[quote="yowmaven" post_id="6148546" time="1198535710" user_id="129749"]Bought an Accord in Canada!!

I was considering buying an Outback for my wife from VBS. Spoke to Karl and was impressed with his demeanor, etc. I had my wife test drive an Outback from a local dealer to see if see would like it. Turns out she didn
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Sep 10, 2006
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is it 2.4l engine, if it's the case in US the price is around 25k.


giasone wrote: I test drove a Toyota Camry Hybrid today in Windsor, Ontario and I really like it.

They want $42,500 inc tax - 500 Toyota rebate - 3500 (federal and provincial rebates) = $38500 Total

I figure the US price is around $29,700 then Canadian taxes = $33,857

Has anyone had any experience bringing in one of these, can anyone offer any advice about this, is it worth the $3500 savings for the hassle I would have to go through going over the border to get it, also would the dealer here in Windsor warranty it.

Thanks - Jason.
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So you said that a Honda Accord EX-L, including all taxes 31,744$ wowow it's a great price (you got 5k discount on the car). I'm impressed with Honda to ajust their price at this level.




[quote="yowmaven" post_id="6148546" time="1198535710" user_id="129749"]Bought an Accord in Canada!!

I was considering buying an Outback for my wife from VBS. Spoke to Karl and was impressed with his demeanor, etc. I had my wife test drive an Outback from a local dealer to see if see would like it. Turns out she didn
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May 18, 2005
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yowmaven wrote: Bought an Accord in Canada!!

I was considering buying an Outback for my wife from VBS. Spoke to Karl and was impressed with his demeanor, etc. I had my wife test drive an Outback from a local dealer to see if see would like it. Turns out she didn’t: she found that it was kinda weird looking out the back window of a wagon, was noisy and that the 2.5i seemed underpowered. I drove the car as well and also felt it was underpowered and thought it could use a 5th gear. In any case, the car is for her and she had to like it. I took her to a local Honda dealer and she loved the looks of the new Accord. She drove the 4 cyl. 190 hp EX-L and loved it. So we bought the car for $31,744.00 CDN, all in. I calculated that the same car would cost me $28,116.00 in the US (the calculation assumes that I could buy the car at $500.00 over invoice). The difference between the CDN & US price would be approximately $3600.00. I felt it made sense to buy the car locally as
  1. the dealer was willing to buy my ’05 Acura which has 2 months left in the lease, thus saving me $1070.00
  2. I save the time and expense (of several hundred bucks) of importing the car
  3. no warranty issue (if I purchased an aftermarket warranty I gather from reading this and other threads that it could cost me about $1000.00 or so)
So, when all is said and done, I would save approximately $1000 - $2000 depending on whether or not I purchased a third party warranty. Not worth it IMHO (and my wife is happy--most important!)


The msrp +freight+tax is $37k, so you got a $5300 discount? That's verygood price. You must have some kind of unusual relationship with Honda, normal people won't be able to get this price.

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