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Zuk Z2 Pro... The latest Chinese "flagship" really does seem to have flagship specs.

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Zuk Z2 Pro... The latest Chinese "flagship" really does seem to have flagship specs.

I don't see anywhere offering pre-orders to Canada yet (at least, not in a quick search through a handful of the respectable Chinese sites), but was just checking out the specs for this ridiculous beast:

- Snapdragon 820
- 5.2" 1080p display with 2.5D Gorilla Glass 3
- 6GB RAM
- 64gb or 128GB storage (UFS 2.0, reportedly)
- USB type-C
- 13 mp f/1.8 rear camera with OIS (Samsung ISOCELL sensor)
- Heartbeat sensor, UV sensor (?), altimeter, front fingerprint sensor
- 3100 mAh battery
- Telus/Koodo LTE support (supposedly) - supports FDD-LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,20 - still no band 17 support, but 4 and 7 is a huge step up from only band 7 in previous Chinese offerings
- No NFC
- Supposed ability to sy

It's selling for 2,699 yuan ($527.60CAD) for the 128GB version in China... Likely add on something like $100CAD or more for the markup once the grey market exporters start selling it, and you're looking at a fairly pricey phone for a Chinese phone... But even at (theoretically) around $650CAD all in, you're still getting a hell of a phone for your money (with the caveat of painful after-sales service, of course, which is a hard nut to swallow when you're spending that much). No NFC is a bummer, though I'll be honest when I say I haven't used NFC on my Nexus 6p since I got it back in November, so I'm not sure that would be a dealbreaker for me.

I don't think I could get myself to spend that much on a Chinaphone, frankly (even though the Zuk Z1 was fairly well regarded)... But damn, those specs are tempting! (For those that don't know, Zuk is one of Lenovo's subsidiary brands.)

If you've got Google Chrome and auto-translate, you can check out the phones official page here.
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" ZukZ too Pro"
The naming sucks LOL
I have not even reached the spec part
Lenovo has better recognition
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danieltoronto wrote: " ZukZ too Pro"
The naming sucks LOL
I have not even reached the spec part
Lenovo has better recognition
I don't think the average consumer gives a flying crap about naming. I know I certainly don't.
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wearysky wrote: I don't think the average consumer gives a flying crap about naming. I know I certainly don't.
I was just joking. But the naming is an important part of name recognition. If it is named Lenovocell or just Lenovo, that would have saved a bit of advertising costs
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danieltoronto wrote: I was just joking. But the naming is an important part of name recognition. If it is named Lenovocell or just Lenovo, that would have saved a bit of advertising costs
Well, Lenovo doesn't really have tons in the way of name recognition for the phone market here, yet, either. Lenovo originally created Zuk as their "flagship online brand", whatever that means. Lol. Marketing is a weird thing, international marketing even moreso.
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hows the updates of OS on these chinese phones.. lol... once a year?
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gd6noob wrote: hows the updates of OS on these chinese phones.. lol... once a year?
better than samsung bloat ware lol
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Pretty close in spec to the Mi5 Pro
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We are getting to the point where the term flagship is somewhat redundant. A few years back, each iteration was leaps and bounds ahead of the previous edition. Now, we are at a plateau where it is hard to notice the effects of further improvements. I think we should start seeing longer upgrade cycles for the typical user. That should put some pressure on future pricing, which is a good thing.
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gd6noob wrote: hows the updates of OS on these chinese phones.. lol... once a year?
In general, low end ChinaPhones have pretty poor OS update support. But Zuk is owned by Lenovo, who has a pretty solid reputation for OS updates.
will888 wrote: We are getting to the point where the term flagship is somewhat redundant. A few years back, each iteration was leaps and bounds ahead of the previous edition. Now, we are at a plateau where it is hard to notice the effects of further improvements. I think we should start seeing longer upgrade cycles for the typical user. That should put some pressure on future pricing, which is a good thing.
I think we could have said that 2 years ago, frankly. Yet we still get yearly updates.
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wearysky wrote: I think we could have said that 2 years ago, frankly. Yet we still get yearly updates.
We are going to see new models come all the time. Even the ubiquitous PC has new releases. I really don't know how the marketing gurus made flagship such a household name. As for phones hardware hitting a plateau two years ago, I think it is a bit premature when adoption rate is considered. The snapdragon 801 was released then, it's capability is still good today. But not everyone can afford to get one at initial release. Today, mid range devices have comparable capability to the 801. Once this level of performance spills into the entry level phones, then we'd be saturated.
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It seems like they want to mimic OnePlus logic in terms of specs, but like the OPT design philosophy, this isn't really considered a flagship device. The price seems a bit steep too.
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ciuvak wrote: Lenovo ZUK Z2 for $275? 3,500mAh, usb Type-c & wireless charging.
It won't be $275(USD). That's just the Chinese price converted to USD. There will be a markup on it for international sales. For example - the Z2 pro listed in the OP has a Chinese price of 2699 CNY (about $410USD). ******** currently has it listed at $564USD (though not currently available for sale).
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wearysky wrote: It won't be $275(USD). That's just the Chinese price converted to USD. There will be a markup on it for international sales. For example - the Z2 pro listed in the OP has a Chinese price of 2699 CNY (about $410USD). ******** currently has it listed at $564USD (though not currently available for sale).
I know, but it depends. Judging by how Z1 was marked up it will not be much, maybe 10%? I saw a listing for Z2 already, it is $299: http://www.oppomart.com/zuk-z2.html
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ciuvak wrote: I know, but it depends. Judging by how Z1 was marked up it will not be much, maybe 10%? I saw a listing for Z2 already, it is $299: http://www.oppomart.com/zuk-z2.html
You can't order off that page though - I'm not sure OppoMart's pre-sale listing prices can be trusted. They also have the pro for $439, too. I have a feeling they just throw up listings with the Chinese prices, until the product is actually available for sale.
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wearysky wrote: You can't order off that page though - I'm not sure OppoMart's pre-sale listing prices can be trusted. They also have the pro for $439, too. I have a feeling they just throw up listings with the Chinese prices, until the product is actually available for sale.
In any case, it's great to at least know the specs and the Chinese MSRP. Hopefully the reviews will be posted soon, too.
Not sure if we need to create a separate thread for this non-PRO version.
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I assume Zenfone 3 (like Zenfone 2) will be available in local stores (like CC or Ncix) . The fact that warranty and return can be done locally gives advantages over on line orders to off shore stores in mainland China (that takes time nowadays). Specification wise they (zuk2 & Zenfone 3) are close.
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