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New Ontario law allows less pay for overtime

Getting overtime for extra hours worked will now be fewer thanks to Mr. Ford:

https://spon.ca/new-ontario-law-allows- ... 019/04/02/

For example, an employee who works 30 hours in weeks one and two and 60 hours in weeks three and four would normally be entitled to 32 hours of overtime pay that month. With the month-long averaging agreements that Bill 66 allows, they would get just four hours of overtime pay.
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What's overtime pay?
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It is still possible for your employer to accept the "old way" of calculating overtime as it's better then the new rules. If your employer adopts the new rules, just don't work overtime. If you rely on overtime pay to pay your bills, then I guess you have to work it on a consistent basis every week.
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vkizzle wrote: What's overtime pay?
LMAO, exactly...... OT pay doesn't exist in my line of work.
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kcorscadden wrote: LMAO, exactly...... OT pay doesn't exist in my line of work.
Same. I have to work this Sunday and I'm not getting paid for it.
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LOL

Hard to drum up sympathy for those affected by this, given many of us are on salary and constantly/consistently work overtime on a regular basis without any extra $$ to compensate........
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When people keep working overtime without pay, ofcourse the greedy corps will take advantage. Too many company slaves in canada
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Lucky for those that are covered by collective agreements.
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apnayloags wrote: When people keep working overtime without pay, ofcourse the greedy corps will take advantage. Too many company slaves in canada
Yeah, kind of hard to walk out of a meeting because "time's up" or tell the customer to cut it short because I have to go home.
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apnayloags wrote: When people keep working overtime without pay, ofcourse the greedy corps will take advantage. Too many company slaves in canada
When you get to certain pay levels, extra hours are expected if that's what it takes to get the job done. That's how you make over $100K with no overtime pay (extra hours are probably worked but not paid for).

NDP made changes to our laws in Alberta that caused my overtime pay to disappear, so I got more stock options instead. It's a wash.

Get a 100K job to sometimes work OT for free, or work for 50K a year and get overtime paid for every hour worked? Hmm...tough choice.
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There is a considerable population that counts on OT to pay bills. Lets not just look at "my" situation, the world is much bigger than "me"
The pity is many of those who will be affected by such decisions are the ones who voted for such government. Long live democrazy.
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jaguaar wrote: There is a considerable population that counts on OT to pay bills. Lets not just look at "my" situation, the world is much bigger than "me"
The pity is many of those who will be affected by such decisions are the ones who voted for such government. Long live democrazy.
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LeisureSuitL wrote: When you get to certain pay levels, extra hours are expected if that's what it takes to get the job done. That's how you make over $100K with no overtime pay (extra hours are probably worked but not paid for).

NDP made changes to our laws in Alberta that caused my overtime pay to disappear, so I got more stock options instead. It's a wash.

Get a 100K job to sometimes work OT for free, or work for 50K a year and get overtime paid for every hour worked? Hmm...tough choice.
You’d have to work a LOT of OT on a 50k salary to comeeven close to $100k.
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OldMarriedGuy wrote: You’d have to work a LOT of OT on a 50k salary to comeeven close to $100k.
I think that was my point. For the most part, the only way to get to a six figure job is one where OT is not paid, and extra hours are expected when they are necessary.
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hightech wrote: Getting overtime for extra hours worked will now be fewer thanks to Mr. Ford:

https://spon.ca/new-ontario-law-allows- ... 019/04/02/

For example, an employee who works 30 hours in weeks one and two and 60 hours in weeks three and four would normally be entitled to 32 hours of overtime pay that month. With the month-long averaging agreements that Bill 66 allows, they would get just four hours of overtime pay.

Dushbag companies already do average. I will ask my boss to eat 3 meals during breakfast and not eat for the rest of the day. So technically company can ask me to do ridiculous hours 1 week and don't come to work the following week. No thanks.
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You guys forget there are a lots of jobs out there in health care and social services that have 24/7 coverage. The employees arent just gonna work for free after hours when they are in the job for 12 hours already. They need incentive to come in.
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LeisureSuitL wrote: When you get to certain pay levels, extra hours are expected if that's what it takes to get the job done. That's how you make over $100K with no overtime pay (extra hours are probably worked but not paid for).

NDP made changes to our laws in Alberta that caused my overtime pay to disappear, so I got more stock options instead. It's a wash.

Get a 100K job to sometimes work OT for free, or work for 50K a year and get overtime paid for every hour worked? Hmm...tough choice.
I would accept OT work for free if it is not regular and I get 100k+ salary.
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medic1 wrote: You guys forget there are a lots of jobs out there in health care and social services that have 24/7 coverage. The employees arent just gonna work for free after hours when they are in the job for 12 hours already. They need incentive to come in.
Pretty sure it is against the law to force employee work OT.

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