Used Audi Q7 purchase question

KravenHead wrote: ↑ IMO..I feel the asking price for a 2018 is a bit high (however these are crazy times).
As a heads up, Q7s have a 85 liter tank and requires premium gas so be prepared to spend over 150$ per fill-up.

ScarySkulls wrote: ↑ Hi all,

I'm in the market for a new family SUV.

We currently have a 2013 Hyundai Santa FE XL (limited) with numerous bells and whistles like ventilated seats, captains chairs in the middle row etc. It's served us well, but it's close to 150k kms run and we are thinking of getting into something nice that is run around the 50-70k kms run mark and drive it till it gets to 150k.... and at that point, it may be time for a minivan!

This will be primarily driven by my wife, who is in healthcare and work from home is not an option! So we need something that is sure-footed and can tackle adverse weather. (For comparison, our Santa Fe with Nokian winter tires has been ok for driving through all snow storms).

On a friend's recommendation, with a budget of around $55k, we are looking at Audi Q7.
Example - 2018 Audi Q7 Technik package - https://www.audi.ca/ca/web/en/inventory ... RMTYxOTdB=

Questions -

1) How are these from a reliability perspective? (I understand this is no Toyota, but as long as yearly upkeep is reasonable, we will attempt to digest it).

2) Overall ownership experience?

3) Should we hold out for a model with the luxury package ie Massage seats? How is the massage quality? Any good or just a feature check box?

4) Any catastrophic issues that we need to lookout for?

5) Any sense in spending extra for a CPO vehicle knowing that the factory warranty for a 2018 model year vehicle will have run out or be about to run out? Would you purchase extra CPO on top if dealership had the option?

Thanks!

ScarySkulls wrote: ↑ Hi all,

I'm in the market for a new family SUV.

We currently have a 2013 Hyundai Santa FE XL (limited) with numerous bells and whistles like ventilated seats, captains chairs in the middle row etc. It's served us well, but it's close to 150k kms run and we are thinking of getting into something nice that is run around the 50-70k kms run mark and drive it till it gets to 150k.... and at that point, it may be time for a minivan!

This will be primarily driven by my wife, who is in healthcare and work from home is not an option! So we need something that is sure-footed and can tackle adverse weather. (For comparison, our Santa Fe with Nokian winter tires has been ok for driving through all snow storms).

On a friend's recommendation, with a budget of around $55k, we are looking at Audi Q7.
Example - 2018 Audi Q7 Technik package - https://www.audi.ca/ca/web/en/inventory ... RMTYxOTdB=

TheTall wrote: ↑ Have you considered a VW Touareg? It's a very similar vehicle as the Q7, was actually built on the same platform until 2015 (Q7, Porsche Cayenne, Touareg were all the same platform up until 2015, although the Q7 is on a different platform now).

Touareg with the 3.6 VR6 engine is a bit more fuel efficient than the Q7. The 3.6 engine is very reliable, and they will pretty much run forever with the basic maintenance. They only made them up until 2017, but the 2017's seem to be selling around the $30-40K mark depending on mileage and trim.

A big plus to the newer Touareg is that it takes regular fuel instead of Premium (but - note that 2015 and before run Premium fuel).

Might be worth a look, I've had one for about 5 years now, test drove some Q7's and Q5's and the Touareg was what I picked at the time. Happy with my purchase.

ES_Revenge wrote: ↑ Touareg is a fairly unique vehicle in that it's more niche and doesn't really meet the needs of the NA market. The older Q7 which was based on the same platform is slightly larger ("stretched" version of the platform) but I don't think OP is trying to get into older cars either.

The PL72 platform was definitely very robust and, in particular, strong like an ox...but again I think it's more of a niche than what people tend to want. And VW started to understand that too, and is why the Atlas exists and how it outsells the Touareg many times over. The highest US sales year for the T'Reg was like 27k units, with most years being under 10k units. Atlas sold 115k units...in 2021 which was not even a good year for car sales overall, and has consistently sold about 60k units/year since the year after its introduction.

Now personally I know the "Atlas will never be a T'Reg", but in terms of the needs/wants of average car buyers? Obviously a much different story. I think OP should definitely check it out but I imagine they're not much into an "older" model that they will probably find is not offering them much more than their existing Sante Fe XL already does.

cn_habs wrote: ↑The RX L would be a huge upgrade from her current car but the row is quite tight.

TheTall wrote: ↑ Have you considered a VW Touareg? It's a very similar vehicle as the Q7, was actually built on the same platform until 2015 (Q7, Porsche Cayenne, Touareg were all the same platform up until 2015, although the Q7 is on a different platform now).

Touareg with the 3.6 VR6 engine is a bit more fuel efficient than the Q7. The 3.6 engine is very reliable, and they will pretty much run forever with the basic maintenance. They only made them up until 2017, but the 2017's seem to be selling around the $30-40K mark depending on mileage and trim.

A big plus to the newer Touareg is that it takes regular fuel instead of Premium (but - note that 2015 and before run Premium fuel).

Might be worth a look, I've had one for about 5 years now, test drove some Q7's and Q5's and the Touareg was what I picked at the time. Happy with my purchase.

ScarySkulls wrote: ↑ Questions -

1) How are these from a reliability perspective? (I understand this is no Toyota, but as long as yearly upkeep is reasonable, we will attempt to digest it).

2) Overall ownership experience?

3) Should we hold out for a model with the luxury package ie Massage seats? How is the massage quality? Any good or just a feature check box?

4) Any catastrophic issues that we need to lookout for?

5) Any sense in spending extra for a CPO vehicle knowing that the factory warranty for a 2018 model year vehicle will have run out or be about to run out? Would you purchase extra CPO on top if dealership had the option?

Thanks!

trixstar wrote: ↑ RX is crap compared to the Q7. The only proper lexus suv is the LX if pitting against german luxury. You can also look at the volvo XC90. Any non Japanese luxury suv will require deep pockets, but you regain back in refinement and experience.